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I just got an invite, from an old dj pal to have a butchers at his set up. He says he uses FL and Neuendo.Is this a good combo?
Your input is much appreciated.
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27-08-2008 15:43

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Nuendo is said to be a fancy and expensive version of Cubase, so I can understand one would use FL for the ease of editing and then rewire it into Nuendo for a quality crisp mixdown.

Basically you shouldn't look too much at what other people use, try a program and see where it takes you. If it is a pain you can still try something else.

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28-08-2008 21:40

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Exactly.

Everyone has there own taste of which DAW they find easiest to use.
For me it's Reason 4 & I've just started using Cubase SX3 for using VsT/i's.

I believe Nuendo is just Cubase SX but with video editing added into the mix.
Maybe one or two other bits and bats. - Nothing major.
I'm not 100% sure though.
Binary havoc uses Nuendo I believe rewired with Reason -
If you want more info on nuendo then I'd ask him !

Loads of freeware VsT/i's can be found at http://plugins.gersics.com/
& some more from http://delamancha.co.uk/

If you after the big boy VsT/'s then you can either pay for them - lool.
Or if you a bit cheeky then you can torrent them as long as you careful you don't download bad copies. Same goes for any of the DAWS.

PAT is a great place for audio stuff but you need an invite to get membership there.

* I've copy pasted this next bit from a thread I posted in a wee while ago.

All the DAW sites offer demo downloads !
So you can try them all out and see which ones you like/prefer.

http://ableton.com - Ableton live
http://steinberg.net - Cubase
http://flstudio.com - Fruity Loops/FL Studio
http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/logicpro - Logic Pro
http://www.digidesign.com - ProTools
http://www.propellerheads.se - Reason
http://reaper.fm/download.php - Reaper

If you're after samples then this thread is dedicated to a hell of a lot of links.
>>> Samplesites/Samplepacks Thread <<<
Also you can get free samples from dotbe members on here too !
http://www.drumnbass.be/downloads.html

A great place to start for Reason patches is http://combinatorhq.com

Of course the forum site http://174bpm.co.uk where I've recently been made manager of the digital record label based from that site which is called [.SUB.] Lime also has free samples, refills, patches, tutorials advice etc ...
Most of us are Reason users atm but we've had a few of the dotbe FL regulars sign up recently. Bigup

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Lime can be found at http://www.sublimerecs.co.uk/

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28-08-2008 22:25

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Originally posted by TheSentinel

Binary havoc uses Nuendo I believe rewired with Reason -
If you want more info on nuendo then I'd ask him !

eZ.

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Gimme a shout anytime Ogenic for any queries re reason / neundo and rewire etc and I'll help if I can Bigup

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28-08-2008 23:23

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You know me BH I'm just here to help in any way I can.
The Dotbe community has helped me out loads so I give back what I can unlike the twats that sign up just for free samples and never post fuck all.
Y'all know who you are ya ungrateful fuckers ! Huh

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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Nuendo is said to be a fancy and expensive version of Cubase, so I can understand one would use FL for the ease of editing and then rewire it into Nuendo for a quality crisp mixdown.

What does nuendo do in the mixdown stage that fl doesn't? Confused

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29-08-2008 12:34

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Maybe it has a more fancy eQ system ?

I know protools eQ system looks top notch.

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29-08-2008 12:42

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Originally posted by TheSentinel
Maybe it has a more fancy eQ system ?

I know protools eQ system looks top notch.

Nearly all eqs are made using this so I doubt it.

http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Audio-EQ-Cookbook.txt

29-08-2008 13:05

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HaHa.

That's too much formulae for me esé.
My programming days have long been over !

What I meant was some DAWS have more complex eQ options.
Like for instance the one in Reason is really basic.
4 bands, Low - Low mid - Hi mid - Hi mid etc ...
Each has gain, frequency and Q(width).
Also a lo cut for under 30hz.

Some of the other DAWs have more options available.
Some have more precise measurements too like I was saying.

in Reason there are 2 different eQ's.
We have the peq-2 which is a really simple outdated device which uses numbers between 1-127 rather than displaying the hz frequency, db, q, like the m-class eQ.

Shit like that.

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29-08-2008 13:18

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Continued ...

Some of the other DAWs have graph eQ's where you draw it in by curve lines.
Think the one in Cubase/Nuendo 3+ or 4 has that one.

Smooth system.

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29-08-2008 13:22

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im a fl user and i have to say that nuendo probably has a better sound engine than fl.

i think anyway Huh

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It isn't an issue of EQ plugins, for that Reason is the only DAW that is limiting to the built-in EQ, in any other DAW you could load the best EQ plugin on the market.
It's the sound engine, the thing that takes the signals from all your sound generators and combines them into one stereo sound, that seems to have some differences.
FL is know to give a warm sound whereas Reason makes it more digital and cold. Cubase/Nuendo give a more exact neutral sound.

(Not my opinion, some peeps on DOA were going on and on about this and the general opinion seemed to be like this).

I would like the mixdown to be as exact as possible, but then again I'm totally convinced that pro-tunes can be made with FL, Reason or any other DAW.

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29-08-2008 15:24

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nuendo is a decent daw....used for post-production work more than producing id say....it allows you to be more accurate than fl, more editing options and allows you to mix in 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc....plus the midi options available (like cubase) are top notch....stands up to pro tools i reckon but geared towards post-production rather than music production imo.

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29-08-2008 23:49

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Is a really interesting thread this

I have used reason 2-4, cubase sx3 and nuendo 3 extensively plus some experience of ableton 5 to 7.

Cubase and Nuendo are essentially the same program workflow wise and I used sx3 for ages but as soon as I tried nuendo 3, I just prefered the way it sounded. That might be total crap as they're basically the same program but thats what my ears told me. Go figure????

I love reason but couldn't finish a tune in it, sounds too cold / digital to me so I always import sounds made in reason into nuendo for arrangement / processing. Similarly I think ableton live is a phenomenal piece of software but just don't like the way that it sounds.

I also have absolutely no hard facts to back any of this up, guess its just down to personal preference.

What I do know is that Battledrone's right when he says a really talented person will make great music irrespective of which DAW they use

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30-08-2008 00:37

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Offtopic posts have been split off into these threads:
Comparing DAW sound engines
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