drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » which modern DAW for someone who is used to trackers? which modern DAW for someone who is used to trackers? Author Post ogenic old skool fools with new skool tools Registration Date: 25-08-2008 Posts: 160 Helpfulness rating:  It's been awhile since I have made any tracks and need some input. I used to use a couple of Amigas running octamed soundstudio, acouple of samplers and afew synths. Now I still have the hardware but I know it's not needed with todays programs but can I still use these if required. Is there anything out there which is simular to soundstudio? I like the idea of controling sounds on a line by line basis, I have Reason 4 but even laying down a break track is making me frustrated. If this is recomended(reason 4) is there anywhere I can d/l example tracks? maybe in stages so I can see what is going on?I also got myself a novation remote 25, is this ok for input? I feel such a noob by todays standards! cheers! OGENIC __ OGENIC 25-08-2008 21:55 PLaGuE CeLL Subwoofer on a Killing Spree Registration Date: 13-01-2006 Posts: 225 Helpfulness rating:  I would definitely not call you a noob, you sound like an old pro! These days we can press a button and get a sound that takes you ages to perfect with your hardware.... you're the one with the real skill! Once you get the hang of software you'll know far more about whats goin on than plenty of us :p __ My Myspace 25-08-2008 22:01 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  http://www.simonv.com/tutorials/reason.php simon v explains reason - .rns file included __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 25-08-2008 23:05 Muad'Dib Andrejnalin Registration Date: 02-12-2003 Posts: 4,197 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by PLaGuE CeLL I would definitely not call you a noob, you sound like an old pro! These days we can press a button and get a sound that takes you ages to perfect with your hardware.... you're the one with the real skill! Once you get the hang of software you'll know far more about whats goin on than plenty of us :p With more possibilities comes more complex sound. So I disagree that we lag behind the knowledge of hw guys (though I admit that having that skill is not for throwing away ) __ Thinking about becoming an Image-Line/FL Studio customer? Want a 10% reduction in price? Use this affiliate link: http://affiliate.image-line.com/BADEBDG473 There is no such thing without its opposite -Bene Gesserit 26-08-2008 01:06 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  Most current programs have step sequencers, which is very comparable to how trackers work. This will be very familiar for you. Reason has a step sequencer too, try it Most programs now work with the timeline horizontally and the tracks vertically, with trackers this is usually the other way round. It only takes a few hours to get used to this. Basically your "lines" will now be "columns". If you already have Reason I would just suggest to persevere with it for a while until you know the program a bit better. After the initial confusion you will get the hang of it very quickly. No use to switch programs too soon, every piece of software takes a couple of weeks to get to know properly. __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 26-08-2008 05:50 BattleDrone 2161... the future. Registration Date: 30-12-2005 Posts: 6,413 Helpfulness rating:  I have a comparable background in tracker-software (soundtracker, protracker, octamed amiga, fastracker pc) and I have gone through similar problems when adapting to todays popular commercial music software. If you want to stick with the original concept of a tracker, you could go for RENOISE, it's really good stuff. Personally I kept trying to adapt and went for FL studio. Once you get the hang of modern programs you might prefer their approach above the tracker way of doing things, but that's personal taste. Just see for yourself what works best for you. One positive aspect of using a popular DAW is the ability to collaborate with others in a very flexible way. __ Check my soundcloud (exclusive tracks on there) 26-08-2008 08:50 Muad'Dib Andrejnalin Registration Date: 02-12-2003 Posts: 4,197 Helpfulness rating:  Good points, chaps. Also, I think Reason is the right choice if you come from the hardware world because it emulates hardware units. __ Thinking about becoming an Image-Line/FL Studio customer? Want a 10% reduction in price? Use this affiliate link: http://affiliate.image-line.com/BADEBDG473 There is no such thing without its opposite -Bene Gesserit 26-08-2008 10:53 selig Steppa Registration Date: 10-07-2008 Posts: 159 Helpfulness rating:  Fl studio was originally meant to be like a tracker so you might like to try that. http://www.flstudio.com/ I'd also recommend trying Reaper. http://www.cockos.com/reaper/ 26-08-2008 13:49 ogenic old skool fools with new skool tools Registration Date: 25-08-2008 Posts: 160 Helpfulness rating:  Thanks for the replies fellas I've decided to stick with Reason 4 and have just purchased a tutorial dvd.So hopefully this will help me get my head around it all. One other thing, wav samples...now Before I would speed up/slow down say a break in soundstudio to fit the tempo I was using or if the tempo was too far out of range cut the break into samples and reprogram a pattern.With rex2 files the samples come with information( I'm asuming) that allows the break/loop to be sped up without stretching it.And can only be used in dr rex, or can I use it in other samplers? So where does the wav files fit, do they come with said information? What can I use them in, the other samplers? would these be stretched?or maybe spit up into single drum hits spread over a key range? Now I plan on using my old vinyl to get some of my samples. I have cool edit pro2, is this ok to use? while typing this I just got an invite, from an old dj pal to have a butchers at his set up. He says he uses FL and Neuendo.Is this a good combo? Your input is much appreciated. OGENIC __ OGENIC 27-08-2008 15:43 thechronic admin Registration Date: 01-11-2002 Posts: 5,293 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by ogenic Thanks for the replies fellas I've decided to stick with Reason 4 and have just purchased a tutorial dvd.So hopefully this will help me get my head around it all. One other thing, wav samples...now Before I would speed up/slow down say a break in soundstudio to fit the tempo I was using or if the tempo was too far out of range cut the break into samples and reprogram a pattern.With rex2 files the samples come with information( I'm asuming) that allows the break/loop to be sped up without stretching it.And can only be used in dr rex, or can I use it in other samplers? So where does the wav files fit, do they come with said information? What can I use them in, the other samplers? would these be stretched?or maybe spit up into single drum hits spread over a key range? Now I plan on using my old vinyl to get some of my samples. I have cool edit pro2, is this ok to use? while typing this I just got an invite, from an old dj pal to have a butchers at his set up. He says he uses FL and Neuendo.Is this a good combo? Your input is much appreciated. OGENIC Wow these are a lot of questions on entirely different topics. I'll break these up in seperate threads, so they can be answered separately. You can find your questions split up in these threads: Can rex2 files be used in other samplers? editing sampled breaks into other patterns: wav files vs rex files can Cool Edit Pro be used to sample from vinyl? Nuendo and FL Studio - a good combo? As you seem satisfied with the responses to your original question I'll close this thread before it becomes a chaos __ If you find spam on the site, please hit the button and select my name. I'll personally kick it to the murky depths of hell where it belongs! 28-08-2008 10:37 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » which modern DAW for someone who is used to trackers?