Greyone 
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Please check out my new track 'Change' and post your comments here!!!
Don't expect what you expect after the intro ...
Lots better than my previous shaman 'fucking' ritual :-)
It's hardstep dnb with loads of basses n basskicks , trance sounds and drum edits.
This track has been deleted on the producer's request
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19-08-2005 20:13 |
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After6
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whats the point of the track 
anyway the mushroom word i didnt like with its tempo chainging. i think u need to remove it ( but its my thinking 
). into is boring.
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19-08-2005 21:27 |
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Greyone
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quote : what's the point of the track
Wtf do you mean by that ?
Intro boring ... well that's cause i wanted it to be then !
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20-08-2005 11:04 |
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Nick ZZ
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Just a cap or two of the stong ones, the mushroom samples are a little silly, but like you said, you wanted it that way! Don't take it out. 
Like the "change" sample and the synth. Drums are good, like the cymbals alot. The breakdown is not bad. Good work! 9/10 Z
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20-08-2005 13:01 |
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PassDa J.
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Liking the intro, nicely done, each sound comin' in ... nice hihats there ... cool vocals ... nice drums after the drop ... cool drop, like your sounds u used ... cool snares ..
1:35 the change is a lil' sudden ...
Just have to say that your drums rule !!! I like em very much all the hihats and snares fit together, nice outro, cool samples and sounds ..
8.5/10 cool shit !
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20-08-2005 15:31 |
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GreatFisherCat
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*** Disclaimer, I have not personally done a single good DnB track, so if youre disagreeing me, attack me with that fact 
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Like with many of the tracks I hear here, I like beats, and hate ambient moments. Drums and bass is up there, works and growls well. If I hear correct, you use 2 different kick drums at each 8 bar loop (atleast towards end of the song, evident atleast around 4:50 onwards). The latter one is quite weedy, with no real strength in it. I did also learn a thing while listening your tune:
Never have both bass and kick drum playing at the same time. Both contain so much sub bass rumble around same frequency area they will drown each other.
Your tune knows this lesson allready.
Your ambient sections have about one melody, weedy analog synth playing "Boo Bee, Bee Boo" which is repeated quite many times during lengthy ambient moments. They sound so weak, so lifeless and empty. Like I mentioned previously, this sickness haunts the whole DnB community, others reviewers have been disagreeing me and saying good things about your intro. I hate it. Shees people, listen some other kind of music too, atleast sometimes! 
Suggestion. Hip Hop and RnB is around similar beat category with DnB.(DnB is more or less twice as fast). Try to get some elements from Hip Hop sample CD´s and work with them to introduce something to ambient moments. Actually, under that Change -sample, you got some really nice strings allready. More of that!
Unlike others, I think movie sample or mushroom sample are ok. Mushrooms sounds out of place and lonely, but that is because ambient sections are so empty, that every sample would.
Because half of the song is good, and another half is not so good, I´ll go 6/10.
And one last thing. Why your mp3 is encoded with 256kbits/second? 6 minutes 40 seconds and 12,2 Meg? Please, save those with slow 256Meg ADSL! I challenge you, make 128 kbit, 196 kbit and 256 kbit encoding from 20 second sample of your choise from this song, get your friend to play those at random order to you (naturally youre not supposed to know which order), 3 times of each, you try to quess which one is which. I do not think there are many songs with so pristine and clear production that they will lose some important artifacts if mp3 is encoded in 192 instead of 256 kbit. DnB is supposed to be dirty and distorted!
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20-08-2005 19:56 |
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Surya
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Nice hard shit. Good edits.
Sound is very punchy, which is nice.
I'd like a tad more mid on the drums, now they're mostly high-end...
The transitions between the bodies and breakdowns could be a bit more fluid or natural imo
Cool idea, but could be a lot better with more attention...
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20-08-2005 20:43 |
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Greyone
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thanx for reviewing ...
@ spintonic : there are some good arguments in your discussion
The ambient is simple and shit fuck cock bitch motherfucker , because the drop would have a larger impact.
2 diff. kickdrums ? nah , i have a layerd kick sometimes to give it mo power.
...Look : if you give me the samples , then i'll create a lovely ambient.
anyway thanx.
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21-08-2005 13:43 |
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joshmccann
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This is what I call some hard shit. This I like nice work. Nice and dark the drums are great. The basline works for me. Loved it.
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21-08-2005 20:09 |
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anf0 D
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lol the mushroom vocal is funny... id play this tune with it in there, if was eqd abit better...
yeah need more low mid n lows...
punchs nicely... this is a beast of a tune... basslines kill it... and the drumms are nice... did u do them urself?
just need to make the intro abit more exciting... cause its an awesome drop. and yeah transitions between breaks is bit strange...
build up to second drop is dope... 
phat tune man... i really like your tunes... mad attitude... sorta what i wanna do but i drift off lol.
keep it up man.
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22-08-2005 06:07 |
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Greyone
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drums are mine indeed .
i understand the intro and the transisions aren't that good at all , but that's because i'm a sucker in ambient stuff.
But i like your style too anf0 , maybe a collaboration in the future ?
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22-08-2005 09:30 |
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anf0 D
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yeah fo sure... although im not using FL... u use fl yeah?? but i might get it running sweet on my pc so i can collab with u n optikal 
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22-08-2005 09:32 |
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Greyone
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whoepie , massive !
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22-08-2005 09:43 |
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Greyone
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@ spintonic : It does wobble ? never heard of that , I always make it BPM equal to 180 .
Sampler: Fl sampler , i pull it tru the slicer to correct /edit it.
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23-08-2005 09:27 |
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GreatFisherCat
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I did try yesterday to lineup the whole long track against beats. What I mean that I converted the mp3 into wave, imported it to Cubase, did some beat calculations, came to conclusion about 180bpm, found a part in a song that has a beats starting and tried to lineup the wav file against beat grid in Cubase. If I managed to get it nicely from begining of the song, at end of the song drum hit is about 1/4 of beats length wrong (too early, thus tempo is slightly quicker than 180 bpm, something like 180.008 bpm, which is not much of a difference but enough that it shows in 7 minute song.)
This is not necessary a bad thing, slight "swing" is just adding up into human feel.
I´ll get back to you if this causes any problem. Before I fell in sleep I thought I found a work around.
Do you mind If I manage to tinker up some ambiences by myself? I wont release it without your permission.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by GreatFisherCat: 23-08-2005 12:53.
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23-08-2005 12:50 |
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Greyone
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theoreticaly tempo can't change by itself , but prackticaly theres some tolerance (0.00
. So whatever , if only 1/1000 persons remarkes it ...
ok make the ambient ...more ambient.
no release please.
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23-08-2005 14:56 |
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GreatFisherCat
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13-09-2005 20:11 |
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auralchaos
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I like it a lot....I am not much for ambients (I tend to not ever have any when I am mixing) but some ambients go well with other songs so running two records together all the way through can mix an ambient from one with the beat from another. I would play this in a club, most of my records are harder like this. Nice triplet thing with the beat too.
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16-09-2005 17:00 |
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optikal_assassin
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damn, sorry i must've overlooked this one. times not playing in my favor when it comes to hearing everyone's tunes lately. overall tracks not bad tho man, definitely shows some improvement over your previous tunes in terms of complexity and bang. *whispers* i wasn't too fond of that mushroom sample
. it's cool tho. overlooking that, your breaks show good complexity, maybe could be a bit more snappier tho on the snares. bass sounds pretty descent. I think it could feel a little warmer tho, know what im sayin? nice, smooth and deep. maybe less distortion on the whole lower frequency. intro tho seemed a little like it could've used a more deadly buildup. kinda shifts into the drop a too sudden. personal taste tho. not really sure how much mor ei can pick the overall track apart tho, the sound is pretty descent for me, im not too concerned about pristine crystal clear sound as long as the track itself is good enough to make up for it. kinda how GreatFischerCat put it....
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not bad overall again man, definitely has it qualities, but just like any other tune, there's always something that can be better. no sense in picking every tiny little mistake out since chances of anyone going back and completely reworking the same finished tune are prolly not very much. nice track. 7/10.
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