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Please check out my new track 'GreyOne vs The Great Fisher Cat - (Beautiful) Change' and post your comments here!!!
Allright, this tune deserves a story. I was reviewing some songs in DnB.Be few weeks back, when I found GreyOne´s tune Change. It was a really good tune, with absolutely excellent beats, but I felt that Drop -parts were too empty. I opened a argument, where I requested more elements to ambient moments. So we agreed that I show what I mean, and publish my version of the tune here. This is not a remix, it is a continuation where GreyOne left off.
Please do visit the original discussion and review also the original tune. My point is to show, that Drop may contain plenty of elements, as long as their feeling is relaxed or different.
What do YOU think?
Original Track can be Found here:
http://www.drumnbass.be/forum/thread.php?threadid=5800
This tune is my first in this forum, it is one of the first tunes ever I have finished but I´ve been in the game for some time, so please do not give me any mercy when reviewing this song. Just remember to tell me why you hate it/like it.
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13-09-2005 20:07 |
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xplosion
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Hey, good work !
I think there is a little bit of clipping in the intro, the drums sound great, good bass and kick variation. Maybe a little melodie to ad with the drums as in the style of the intro which is also good work.
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14-09-2005 00:38 |
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cant remember if i reviewed the other one or not.....and im to lazy to check......anyway.....cool intro...samples are nice enuff.....some of the synths are bit weird in places during the first drop.....
anyway its good....but some of the samples seem a bit out of place.....i would go for either just the mushrooms sample and build around the theme or drop it completely...
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14-09-2005 04:12 |
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GreatFisherCat
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Originally posted by Nick ZZ
I noticed the added beats and other elements; Greyone made a good track to start! You can add somthing noticable to any piece of art or tell the artist that they are missing something, I don't feel that actually means they are. I am sure Greyone was trying to create a feel when making the track. Cheers. Z
I found a picture of a fisher-cat, and a good link to describe a little about them. They are members of the ferrit family.
http://pusscats.com/Fisher_Cat.htm |
Thanks Nick for critical review. GreyOne´s beats are absolutely stunning, so I had easy task to work only on melodies. If you have time, be sure to check his original song, and compare / review my added elements.
What is your opinnion, ho wmuch active elements drop can contain?
I did not actually know there is such a animal as Fisher Cat. I have been allways thinking Great Fisher Cat as a large cat with black and grey stripes, fisherman´s best friend. a bit like one of our cats. I´ll drop a picture of him when I am at home.
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14-09-2005 08:28 |
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Greyone 
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Yeh it's better when using more ambient :
-first to fill up the freq.
-second cause its better anyway.
Breakdown is cool with those added tikkle drums
2nd drop is exagerated with the ambient , sorry.
5:45 clips 
This track could allso use less drops (i have like 4 drops) and better buildups / breakdowns.
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14-09-2005 09:25 |
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Nick ZZ
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Originally posted by GreatFisherCat
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Originally posted by Nick ZZ
I noticed the added beats and other elements; Greyone made a good track to start! You can add somthing noticable to any piece of art or tell the artist that they are missing something, I don't feel that actually means they are. I am sure Greyone was trying to create a feel when making the track. Cheers. Z
I found a picture of a fisher-cat, and a good link to describe a little about them. They are members of the ferrit family.
http://pusscats.com/Fisher_Cat.htm |
Thanks Nick for critical review. GreyOne´s beats are absolutely stunning, so I had easy task to work only on melodies. If you have time, be sure to check his original song, and compare / review my added elements.
What is your opinnion, ho wmuch active elements drop can contain?
I did not actually know there is such a animal as Fisher Cat. I have been allways thinking Great Fisher Cat as a large cat with black and grey stripes, fisherman´s best friend. a bit like one of our cats. I´ll drop a picture of him when I am at home. |
I was going back and forth when I was listening. I like the added elements, I did'nt say that before, but I also liked his track prior to the addition. I think a remix is a little more flattering and more approprate when it comes to someone elses work. (Just my opinion) When I read your name I was curious enough to look it up, I am a cat person. Z
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14-09-2005 11:20 |
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GreatFisherCat
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Yep, please do not take my introducion as I would have been unhappy or not liking the GreyOne´s original track. The reason why I did not use term "Remix" was because I dd not have access to all components and was not supposed to touch the beats. My original task, given by GreyOne was "Make ambient... more ambient."
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14-09-2005 11:51 |
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GreatFisherCat
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Originally posted by greyone
Yeh it's better when using more ambient :
-first to fill up the freq.
-second cause its better anyway.
Breakdown is cool with those added tikkle drums
2nd drop is exagerated with the ambient , sorry.
5:45 clips
This track could allso use less drops (i have like 4 drops) and better buildups / breakdowns. |
Thanks for your input, I am glad that you like it. If I ever have time/energy to come back to this tune, I will promise to take your comments into account. One possibility is that I provide you all audio tracks and you can continue from that.
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14-09-2005 12:02 |
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the track has everything it needs, good structure, good intro, great drums. af for the drums I would leave out some drum and snare roffles.
at 0:13 I hear some clipping.
at 1:56 I would give the bass more volume, but that's my own opinion.
I really enjoy the drum variations and the distorted kicks. mayeb it's and idea to stretch the short "mushroom" voice as to build op a climax here and there.
great song !
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14-09-2005 12:22 |
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auralchaos
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I like the clockwork orange style intro, the track is pumpin... good bass duel.
the samples are really nice what old movie /? are they from
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16-09-2005 15:55 |
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like the intro, cool melody.
the drop is nice and hard but i think it could use more sub bass.
a couple of samples have lots of static, like the "mushroom" sample, doesnt sound too good.
really like the trip hop break in there, i think thats the best part of the song.
nice work choppin up the beat.
overall, its a good track, a bit rough around the edges, but good.
cheers.
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18-09-2005 03:31 |
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GreatFisherCat
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Thank you for your positive feedback, people, be sure there will be more tunes coming some day 
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18-09-2005 08:36 |
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Nick ZZ
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19-09-2005 08:25 |
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Surya
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Not such a bad tune, but the mastering is HORRIBLE. Bad EQing and worse compression.
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07-10-2005 13:20 |
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GreatFisherCat
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Originally posted by Surya
Not such a bad tune, but the mastering is HORRIBLE. Bad EQing and worse compression. |
please be more specific. I have cecked my tune in numerous listening enviroments, and have not noticed major issues with it. Berhaps I am still newbie and lack something...
what do you feel is wrong and in how?
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08-10-2005 20:37 |
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Surya
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Well, the EQing isn't great. The bass could pump a bit more, the drums could have some more punch and the mid part of your basslines could use a boost around 4k hz imo (gives it this nice agressive edge). But the biggest problem is the compression. It is too extreme and gives this horrible fluctuating effect on the sound, messing it up.
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10-10-2005 09:46 |
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Greyone
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well i think the eqing is my fault , and the compression is because i compressed it too much and fishercat compressed it again (because it weren't dry samples , just the track)
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10-10-2005 10:00 |
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It's all about the right sound at the right time......