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Greyone Greyone is a male

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i still dont know exactly what side chaining is , is that a function or a name of a compressor ?
if its a vst , name please

the beauty of eqing is that each does it on a different way and we all add a different feeling to our tunes

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EQing the shit

07-04-2007 14:41

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i still dont know exactly what side chaining is , is that a function or a name of a compressor ?

The search function is your friend Tongue

How to use the sidechain of a compressor

And wikipedia of course

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07-04-2007 16:06

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side chaining is tha shizzle grey!!!!!!its a method of using the output of one sound to trigger the compressor,gate or whatever else you want to trigger.it makes the compressor "duck"the kik or snare to help it cut through.it can also be used to create chopping effects in pads or other sounds.google it!!!

07-04-2007 16:43

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A sidechain is an output and input back into a compressor. You can connect other signal processors to it. The connected processor only gets the signal when the compressor is working. Sidechains are often used with eqs to make a de-esser, which will soften the loud "SSS" and "PP" sounds from a vocalist when they exceed the compressors threshold. But you can connect delays, reverb anything you want to a sidechain for unusual, program loudness dependent effects. It is not needed for typical compressor operations, so many manufacturers leave these off.

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07-04-2007 17:15

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Sidechaining is indeed pretty usefull if you can´t get the kick to punch through decently without ruining the bass.

@Greyone: I have found a pretty easy/alternative way to do it in FL using only a peak controller on the bassdrum which then controls a single slider from the param EQ which is put on the bass. When the basdrum kicks it makes a peak which is used to control the slider of the param. EQ (move it down quickly) when the kick is fading out the slider is back to it´s normal position so you don´t really notice that the bass is dropped in velocity but you can hear the kick punch through nicely.

If this explanation isn´t clear enough and you would like to try it, PM me and I´ll explain it in detail (and in Dutch Big Grin

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07-04-2007 20:14

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oh the old sidechain, so weird. can be used for "ducking" with a long but natural sounding relase and a semi-quick attack, the sound that radio announcers get when they talk and the music ducks down.

so you set the input form the DJ's mic tot e side chain and have the compressor on the music, BAME instantly it's like the dj pulls down the sound of the music and pulls it back up everytime he talks, without doing a damn thing. even a monkey could do it then.

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07-04-2007 21:45

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thanx

07-04-2007 22:12

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thanx to fruityloops 7 i FINALY know what sidechaining realy is...

soryy to say but i guess your explanations were right but not good to understand in words Smile

anyway thanx , its just a linking thing while using the peakcontroller

yes finally i know , so lets hope for some better soundquality now :p

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19-04-2007 18:19

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hehe not our fault they use non standard terms in FL Tongue

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19-04-2007 19:04

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But Greyone, if you read those explanations again, do they make sense now?

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19-04-2007 19:14

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INCREDIBLE POSSIBITLITIES Shocked

just too bad you cant link 2 things on the peakcontroller Mad

or i havent find that yet

19-04-2007 21:17

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hehe damn , if i dont win that Current Value competion then im still glad my production is upgraded again Happy

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19-04-2007 21:37

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INCREDIBLE POSSIBITLITIES Shocked

just too bad you cant link 2 things on the peakcontroller Mad

or i havent find that yet

you can just make a submix on an aux or something and put that in the sidechain

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19-04-2007 23:08

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INCREDIBLE POSSIBITLITIES Shocked

just too bad you cant link 2 things on the peakcontroller Mad

or i havent find that yet

you can just make a submix on an aux or something and put that in the sidechain

dont know what you mean Tongue

but if i (for example) link 1 knob to the controller , and when i add a 2nd knob to the controller , the first disapears...

so in fact i should have 2 peakcontrollers , didnt tested it yet

19-04-2007 23:13

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Don't you have auxes (effects sends) in FL? you must have, they're probably called differently.

You make a submix outside the compressor by whatever means possible, by making a submix or a sub group or whatever in your mixer.

Put two channels into an aux channel / effects send, then put the aux channel / effect channel into the sidechain input.

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20-04-2007 00:12

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Don't you have auxes (effects sends) in FL? you must have, they're probably called differently.

You make a submix outside the compressor by whatever means possible, by making a submix or a sub group or whatever in your mixer.

Put two channels into an aux channel / effects send, then put the aux channel / effect channel into the sidechain input.

might try that too , yeah in fruity its the 'send' thing

20-04-2007 00:26

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everychannle is a send now.

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20-04-2007 00:56

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sidechaining is a step closer to the allmighy technics of top notch production Drummer

20-04-2007 01:25

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quote:

Originally posted by Greyone
dont know what you mean Tongue

but if i (for example) link 1 knob to the controller , and when i add a 2nd knob to the controller , the first disapears...
so in fact i should have 2 peakcontrollers , didnt tested it yet

In the case you want to control for example the cut-off of 1 sample and the volume of another sample you need to use 2 peak controllers.

If you want to drop the volume of 2 different samples you could route them to the same mixerchannel and drop the volume of the mixerchannel.
Even if you want different effects on the 2 samples you can do this.

The problem you describe has occured to me too and I find it really dull that you can't do this.

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20-04-2007 01:41

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quote:

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dont know what you mean Tongue

but if i (for example) link 1 knob to the controller , and when i add a 2nd knob to the controller , the first disapears...
so in fact i should have 2 peakcontrollers , didnt tested it yet

uhu

anyway i'd like to hear some tracks from you man , think i never heard one up to now

20-04-2007 10:21

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