 Talkin Redrum |
Digital Cause 
Player
Registration Date: 06-07-2006
Posts: 447
Helpfulness rating:
 |
|
I love Redrum for my beats, I always rewire to use it and think its awesome. At the moment im really trying to improve my drums and was just wondering if anyone had any tips on using it. A few points I have about it are that the red orange and green "velocity" levels arnt really velocity, but volume, and the swing (shuffle) on it always sound fucking whack.
I usually start a loop by putting a kick on steps 1 and 11, and I (usually) create a seperate redrum for the snares and hi hats, simply cos it saves a lot of time and a lot of loose wires hanging round the back. I usually just outta habit put the kick and snare on a mid velocity and the hi hats on a light velocirty, though lately ive been increasing the volume of the hats.
anyway if anyones got any tips on how they use it please let me knoe.
__
www.myspace.com/digitalcause
www.myspace.com/mysterious1000
|
|
|
04-01-2007 22:06 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
well the shuffle button on redrum only turns the shuffle on. you change the amount of shuffle by moving the knob in the bottom right corner of the transport bar.
and the velocity is velocity. although you are limited to the three settings. but you can have more control if you go to the sequencer view once you have copied the pattern to the track.
I only really use reason for my beats these days. ill program the kick and snare in redrum , maybe some hats and the rest is done via dr.rex. everything else isdone in cubase. but im messing around with fxpansions guru plug in so i might abandon reason altogether
This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 04-01-2007 23:09.
|
|
|
04-01-2007 23:07 |
|
|
cynik
Cp6uja
Registration Date: 15-03-2005
Posts: 5,646
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
red orange and yelow (dynamics) is velocity. in redrum default state, it is assigned to the volume with the little knob that says "vel." just to the volume knobs
if you move the vel. knob thats near the sample start, it will be assigned to sample start
and thats about it. the reason redrum is weak is you cant set the velocity to much else, say pitch. you can, but its crude and only can be done to a few samples in the rack
my advice - use the nnxt
__
https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves
|
|
|
05-01-2007 14:44 |
|
|
Digital Cause
Player
Registration Date: 06-07-2006
Posts: 447
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
why use the nnxt?
__
www.myspace.com/digitalcause
www.myspace.com/mysterious1000
|
|
|
07-01-2007 17:44 |
|
|
cynik
Cp6uja
Registration Date: 15-03-2005
Posts: 5,646
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
|
|
07-01-2007 17:53 |
|
|
D2o
Ghost
Registration Date: 30-05-2005
Posts: 2,545
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
|
|
07-01-2007 18:53 |
|
|
Mythix
Tourist
Registration Date: 17-12-2004
Posts: 22
|
|
|
But when u use the nnxt, the note of the sample changes with the zone you have put it on, or can this be avoided?
|
|
|
09-01-2007 07:45 |
|
|
cynik
Cp6uja
Registration Date: 15-03-2005
Posts: 5,646
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Mythix
But when u use the nnxt, the note of the sample changes with the zone you have put it on, or can this be avoided? |
it happens automaticaly. the way I do it - after creating the first one-key zone I don't create any, but choose "duplicate zone" as it doesn't pitch the sample after changing its zone. then replace the sample
__
https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves
|
|
|
09-01-2007 08:58 |
|
|
Soi
Super Moderator
Registration Date: 29-01-2003
Posts: 1,417
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C
| quote: |
Originally posted by cynik
| quote: |
Originally posted by Mythix
But when u use the nnxt, the note of the sample changes with the zone you have put it on, or can this be avoided? |
it happens automaticaly. the way I do it - after creating the first one-key zone I don't create any, but choose "duplicate zone" as it doesn't pitch the sample after changing its zone. then replace the sample |
Thats how i do it too 
|
Me too.
Grouphug?
__
a myspace
my tunes
"I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am.
It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get."
|
|
|
09-01-2007 10:40 |
|
|
Mythix
Tourist
Registration Date: 17-12-2004
Posts: 22
|
|
allright, i'll try that next time 
|
|
|
09-01-2007 17:06 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
on another note.
get battery or guru instead
|
|
|
09-01-2007 21:07 |
|
|
Digital Cause
Player
Registration Date: 06-07-2006
Posts: 447
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
those parameters will give you minor advantages imo, could you please explain more how nnxt helps your drums more?
how can an ADSR, LFO be much use on transients like drums? you can layer on redrum, the only ting i can think of is in redrum your are limited to strict quantizing...
__
www.myspace.com/digitalcause
www.myspace.com/mysterious1000
|
|
|
09-01-2007 23:13 |
|
|
Digital Cause
Player
Registration Date: 06-07-2006
Posts: 447
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
im only asking jeez. it would help if you could explain instead of bigging yourself up. so you mean the lfos are helpful because the lfo keeps going over the whole loop as opposed to just the one samples?
I didnt know amatuer producers wernt allowed in here man, sorry.
__
www.myspace.com/digitalcause
www.myspace.com/mysterious1000
|
|
|
10-01-2007 12:30 |
|
|
Digital Cause
Player
Registration Date: 06-07-2006
Posts: 447
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
compresssion can also gel snares together. Redrum. but yeah that sustain ting with compression is probs better. oh yeah can you automate the individual paramaters on nnnxt? i seem to remember you cant
__
www.myspace.com/digitalcause
www.myspace.com/mysterious1000
|
|
|
10-01-2007 12:33 |
|
|
cynik
Cp6uja
Registration Date: 15-03-2005
Posts: 5,646
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Digital Cause
im only asking jeez. it would help if you could explain instead of bigging yourself up. so you mean the lfos are helpful because the lfo keeps going over the whole loop as opposed to just the one samples?
I didnt know amatuer producers wernt allowed in here man, sorry. |
lol no. Im not bigging myself up. on a sidenote Im amateur ffs
no, Id not put lfo on a whole loop.
its not a bad idea I guess. distort the shit out of a loop and create a sniping effect on it using the lfo?
but I dont understand your point since nnxt is very easy exactly because you can affect each sample and not all of them together. you can do that too ofcourse, or to a group of samples as Jimmy explained
I USE REDRUM. if I need it. but I dont know what would I do without nnxt
ok I'll ellaborate
REDRUM VS NNXT
redrum:
-there is a limited number of samples involved
-only 1 midi information per sample
-crude pitch control
+flam
+resolution knob
nnxt:
+unlimited samples
+unlimited midi assignment using zones (easy for layering)
+precise control over each sample
-automation is a bit weird (but were talking about drums here so..) you can automate, but its a process of assigning the modulation knobs
so redrums flam is the only reason why I use it occasionaly, the resolution knob is fun too, espaceialy to try a halfstep of your loop without further programming
__
https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves
|
|
|
10-01-2007 12:46 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
i guess it depends how much u wanna tweak ya drum sounds.
i still say get guru or battery instead
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 10-01-2007 14:22.
|
|
|
10-01-2007 14:20 |
|
|
|
