drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » layering layering Author Post newbie Tourist Registration Date: 27-12-2006 Posts: 13 i have been using fl and i am just getting used to it now. i hear a lot of talk about layering beats. i think i know what is ment buy this but would someone please be able to explain this to me. cheers 27-12-2006 22:33 Philthy McNasty Florida DnB Masta! Registration Date: 23-07-2006 Posts: 1,088 Helpfulness rating:  Layering one hits (kicks snares,etc) on top of the break to fatten up the kicks, snares, etc. You can also do this, by layering certain breaks, on top of breaks, to get a diff sound. __ http://www.myspace.com/philthydubbish 27-12-2006 23:01 PLaGuE CeLL Subwoofer on a Killing Spree Registration Date: 13-01-2006 Posts: 225 Helpfulness rating:  depending on what style of drum n bass you make it could mean different methods... personally i make old skool jungle stuff and use a lot of classic samples... usually i have three different samples going at the same time, for example, the amen, the think break, and circles. (if you're new to the scene then these are really famous drum loops used in a lot of jungle tunes, and the amen is the most famous outta the lot :p) basic jungle beat example: id chop up the amen in typical jungle style chop the think break and maybe have the circles break running underneath with no chopping... then make sure they all have a good volume in relation to each other, maybe eq a bit and whack em in the track. --- im not very familiar with modern dnb, but my understanding of layering for this stuff is: Say you like the snap of one snare drum, but like the tailing-off of another one, why not use them both hitting at the same time so ya get the best of both worlds? this applies to all drum sounds... both techniques could be applied to both the new and old skool styles but generally they are each weighted towards their own styles.... however music is no fun if ya dont experiment __ My Myspace 27-12-2006 23:06 newbie Tourist Registration Date: 27-12-2006 Posts: 13 cheers for that. i make my beats from scratch so would this no need to be done then? 27-12-2006 23:44 Knives Tourist Registration Date: 29-11-2006 Posts: 12 That's what Plague Cell is saying; since you make your beats 'from scratch' (which means from individual hit samples instead of loops) you can layer these samples to get a desired sound. Plague Cell's example is a good one - if you like the 'snap' of a certain snare (maybe an old-school jungle snare) and the 'poof' of another one (for example, an electro snare), you can cause them to play at the same time in a few different ways. I don't use FL, I use Reason, so I'll explain how you do it in that (I'm sure some of the devices/functions are similar). I like to use the NN-XT sampler to trigger two or three different snare hits with the same key, by placing all of the samples on that key, but it's possible to just play two different triggers with the samples on them, at the same time - this is the way you'd probably do it in FL. __ VIOLENCE IN ACTION 28-12-2006 15:56 @1$-) unregistered layering aplies to all sounds not just the drums. 28-12-2006 16:03 newbie Tourist Registration Date: 27-12-2006 Posts: 13 cheers lads for the help 28-12-2006 19:54 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  and remember, layering is not strictly vital, if you think you want it then do it, if you dont think it needs it; dont. I sample a lot from records and if hits have been used in publish tunes theres no real reason to layer... always keep the sound you want in mind and dont do things for the sake of it ! __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 29-12-2006 01:15 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  basic jungle beat example: id chop up the amen in typical jungle style chop the think break and maybe have the circles break running underneath with no chopping... know a good place to download these breaks? sorry if im being dumb but the ones i have managed to download (think) still got the bass and trumpets in the break, do i just eq these lower or should i be getting the clean break? thanks... __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 20-02-2007 01:08 zodi619 Tourist Registration Date: 08-10-2006 Posts: 21 Check the samples section of the forum if you havent already. There are a bunch of different forums out there on the web. Search Drum n Bass forums, or what ever genre you're interested in. Free breaks samples things like that hope this helps. 20-02-2007 05:10 BattleDrone 2161... the future. Registration Date: 30-12-2005 Posts: 6,413 Helpfulness rating:  Here's a little goldmine for people in need of some classic stuff. __ Check my soundcloud (exclusive tracks on there) 20-02-2007 13:50 demolitionkid where's demo? Registration Date: 08-11-2006 Posts: 401 Helpfulness rating:  yes there 07-03-2007 13:15 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » layering