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Digital Cause 
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I mean SCRATCH, no using loops etc, just building them up one sample at a time, how many of you make your own beats?
then do you compress the whole drum loop as a whole, or do you compress individual elements of it then add em together?
any tips for writing drum breaks?
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21-12-2006 15:57 |
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cynik
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imo best is to compress it alltogether with a multiband compressor such as izotope ozone but previously compress the kick.
I like to precompress, render and compress again. the NYC technique is good, do a search in this forum
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21-12-2006 16:22 |
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i disagree with cynik. i think its best to track all elements of the drums seperately and compress individually.
more controll of the mixdown which is the most important part.
thing is of you compress , then compress again. then its gonna be compressed AGAIN when its mastered. not good. unless u wanna loose all the dynamics.
anyway i program my own beats with one hits.mainly for the kick,snare and hats, then i add loops, edit the loops to my liking,edit some more, layer some more etc etc etc. theres no rules though. do what u like. until it sounds good. and the best way to figure that out is comparison
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21-12-2006 16:34 |
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cynik
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eqing is by far more important for individual hits. dont tell me youre compressing the highats.
the kick is the most compression whore.
if its getting compressed again when amastering then it is the second compression. making your first precompression lol. what5ever
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21-12-2006 16:48 |
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Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by cynik
the kick is the most compression whore.
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Oh yeah!!
I usually start my loops from skratch, and I compress/EQ them separately, maybe sometimes in a group (usually with hits from similar groups (snares, kicks, etc.))
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21-12-2006 20:07 |
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benson
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seperate tracks for kick snare and high hats, if i layer any of the above i send them to a single bus then start the signal processing. merry christmas and a happy new year
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21-12-2006 22:01 |
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benji b
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so how do y'all make ur own hits? wat programs do u use?
how do u make drum hits in ableton live?
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22-12-2006 03:23 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by Digital Cause
I mean SCRATCH, no using loops etc, just building them up one sample at a time, how many of you make your own beats?
then do you compress the whole drum loop as a whole, or do you compress individual elements of it then add em together?
any tips for writing drum breaks? |
always compress the whoel loop..
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22-12-2006 06:12 |
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benson
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good clean samples are key
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22-12-2006 10:49 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by benji b
so how do y'all make ur own hits? wat programs do u use?
how do u make drum hits in ableton live?
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synthesis from drum hits is a pain in the ass.., most people use samples theyve downloaded from somewhere else.. via this site, or others...
in ableton im assuming you would use battery or perhaps kontakt..
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22-12-2006 17:05 |
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benji b
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Originally posted by Surora23
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Originally posted by benji b
so how do y'all make ur own hits? wat programs do u use?
how do u make drum hits in ableton live?
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synthesis from drum hits is a pain in the ass.., most people use samples theyve downloaded from somewhere else.. via this site, or others...
in ableton im assuming you would use battery or perhaps kontakt.. |
ok... i didnt mean synthesise drum hits... so the 1st step is to use a sample?
im not sure about ableton. some1 told me you could use it to make hits 
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23-12-2006 03:07 |
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junglist06
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can anyone recommend any good synths out there, the one i am using atm is ok but looking for something a bit different
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27-12-2006 20:03 |
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Digital Cause
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if you compress the whole loop, you can get a pumping effect, which can be good, but for this you must have a steady point in the loop where there is a higher threshold than the rest, i.e. the kick. my problem with this is that usually the snare and kick seem to go to about the same threshold, and if you limit or compress the snare too much then it sounds dead, so for this reason i dont really compress the whole loop, just slightly limit it.
It is definetely not a bad idea to compress the hi hats, with ride cymbals especially, they can cause peaks in your mixdown which you will only have to limit later if you want to normalize the track to a decent level. as long as the compression isnt killing the hats, go for it.
so if i could , yes i would compress the whole loop, together, but for now i cant seem to get the technique right, so im compressing individual bits. If your samples are from other dnb tunes however, compression on just the kick samples for example which youve already sampled and have already been conmpressed, your in murky water, dont compress for the sake of it..
SCREW THE DYNAMICS. louder is better, and if you have peaks all over the place the tune wont sound as good because it wont be as consistent. take any mastered tune and look at its waveform, compressed to high hell !! ! !
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