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Muad'Dib 
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The bottom line is that we all should, as individuals, do something to save ourselves. Global warning is present, and this is not a myth - every next fucking summer is hotter then the previous one here, and every winter has less and less snow. I take that for a sign.
In any case, if you don't stop smoking, driving cars from 70s and throw garbage on the streets, you can expect to be fried in about 30 years.
Stop using gasoline and use propane-butane mix.
Stop burning fire.
Plant 15 trees somewhere.
Throw your garbage in the designated place.
Use public transportations (compared to the people they transfer, they spend 70% less gas then all other transportation ways all together).
Think with your head, and think for your children.
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Surora23
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Originally posted by cynik
bah.
the only thing USA has ever done is move its mega-polluting heavy industry out of borders of the US and into the poor asian countries.
so geographically it doesnt mean shit where the factories are, its who owns them. and then go on measuring sources of pollution geographically which is extremely pathetic
on a sidenote, selling the products made in those countries at much higher prices, thus those countries continue starving while the US gets richer
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granted that may be true... our country is rich for that... and it doesnt really matter in this day in age how people get rich anymore so its not liek you can get mad at it...
and the us isnt rich cause of fucking oil companies
everyone of you who doesnt live here needs to do a lil bit more fucking research...
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Greyone
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
The bottom line is that we all should, as individuals, do something to save ourselves. Global warning is present, and this is not a myth - every next fucking summer is hotter then the previous one here, and every winter has less and less snow. I take that for a sign.
In any case, if you don't stop smoking, driving cars from 70s and throw garbage on the streets, you can expect to be fried in about 30 years.
Stop using gasoline and use propane-butane mix.
Stop burning fire.
Plant 15 trees somewhere.
Throw your garbage in the designated place.
Use public transportations (compared to the people they transfer, they spend 70% less gas then all other transportation ways all together).
Think with your head, and think for your children. |
lol 
thats a joke right ?
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04-12-2006 17:41 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by greyone
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
The bottom line is that we all should, as individuals, do something to save ourselves. Global warning is present, and this is not a myth - every next fucking summer is hotter then the previous one here, and every winter has less and less snow. I take that for a sign.
In any case, if you don't stop smoking, driving cars from 70s and throw garbage on the streets, you can expect to be fried in about 30 years.
Stop using gasoline and use propane-butane mix.
Stop burning fire.
Plant 15 trees somewhere.
Throw your garbage in the designated place.
Use public transportations (compared to the people they transfer, they spend 70% less gas then all other transportation ways all together).
Think with your head, and think for your children. |
lol
thats a joke right ?
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its people like you THAT DONT GIVE A FUCK.... fuck you grey... atlesat hes making the point.. and when you see that this isnt fucking bullshit, and its 150 degrees outside and everythings on fire... yoll think... HEY MAYBVE I SHOULDA PLANYED A FUCKING TREE...
fuck all of yo.. its not the us that doesnt care, its the lil fucking people around the world like you that just sit back, and let yoruselfs get fucked in the ass by the government and the rest of the world...
so fuck all of yo that dont care about this!!!
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Surora23
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
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he means trees, and shit... alot of forest fires are started on purpose to help clear area of industrial things... doesnt even ghave to be a factory could be 10 acres for a mall...
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Surora23
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Originally posted by greyone
sorry but i dont realy bother bout that , i do bother about pollution and stuff but the most pollution is the factories , the quiet governement (asbest polution , radiation polution , chemicals in drinkwater ,...) and the whole fucking globe who's already poisoned by ages of experiments and wasting.
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its people liek yo that sit back and dont do anything like everyone that doesnt get anything into progress...in movement... so id suggest you do say something... cause the only way, "the big bad usa" which agian ISNT THE ONLY MOTHER FUCKERS HERE THAT ARE AT FAULT MIND YOU! is to stand up and fight against it...
democracy has worked in teh usa for 200yrs roughly... and our country has advanced fucking quicker than any of yoru countries...
why the fuck do yo think that is?
so why dont yo shut the fuck up... and stop bitching about "oh i cant do anything"
yes you fucking can... ``
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04-12-2006 18:05 |
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tetsuo
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Originally posted by Surora23
democracy has worked in teh usa for 200yrs roughly... and our country has advanced fucking quicker than any of yoru countries...
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I'm 200 % with ya m8, been recycling for 2 years.... do what I can.
The problem IS industrial and linked to profit... So hard to fight against that I think, and we need a f**** revolution, and that will NEVER happen...
So i'm with ya m8, but I HATE the sentence I quoted....no need to answer my quote, that is si wrong.... you CAN'T think like that man.....
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Philthy McNasty
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Surora I see this is a touchy subject for you, as it is for me, but I would never go to the extreme that u are. Either people will get it, and do something, or people wont. You cant post 20 different things trying to force people to think like you. The matter of fact thing, and probably the only thing everyone can agree on, is the enviorment is fucked, and it is due to PEOPLE, I am not gonna single out one country because people will agree or disagree, just look at the facts and make ur baosis on that. Yes America is a big player innit, because of our standard of life. But you saying that we are the richest country ,and that democracy has worked for 200 yrs ,is the most complete horseshit I have ever heard. Llook at were we are at, in the means, of the eyes of the world. Believe it or not, all countries hate us. Yes we are the most powerful, but we try and push our belief and way of life (hence Iraq democracy) onto others as u are trying to do now with your enviorment talk. And I dont know about u, but I think politics are shaddier than a 12yr drug dealer in an alley in NYC.....soo.....were does that lead us......we all will agree on things, and some things we wont, and thats why i thought u were posting this up, to GET peoples opinions, not to force urs. Just take a step back, and read ur posts, and see......is it worth it to get so hostile??
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Greyone
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@ surora:
at least i dont use the word f*ck a dozen times to superior my statement.
an extremist you are , and only a few words between your f*ck's are 100% true
peace
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yeah!! lets all live forever!!.. fucking prick.. 
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Glim
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@ surora:
at least i dont use the word f*ck a dozen times to superior my statement.
an extremist you are , and only a few words between your f*ck's are 100% true
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second that
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04-12-2006 20:09 |
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cynik
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Originally posted by Surora23
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bah.
the only thing USA has ever done is move its mega-polluting heavy industry out of borders of the US and into the poor asian countries.
so geographically it doesnt mean shit where the factories are, its who owns them. and then go on measuring sources of pollution geographically which is extremely pathetic
on a sidenote, selling the products made in those countries at much higher prices, thus those countries continue starving while the US gets richer
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granted that may be true... our country is rich for that... and it doesnt really matter in this day in age how people get rich anymore so its not liek you can get mad at it...
and the us isnt rich cause of fucking oil companies
everyone of you who doesnt live here needs to do a lil bit more fucking research... |
ok dont mind that second bit.
but the truth stands that the compnies in US are moving heavy industry out of it... which doesnt help at all in terms of global pollution
always all about the fucking money
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broadside
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lary environmentalists . . . always crack me up.
I think Suorora said something like "none of us know enough about this" . . . and that about sums it up for me. I didnt do the research and Im probably not clever enough to have a respectable opinion on this - I not going to speak for the rest of yous, but even people who have watched the entirity of one movie about this and even mayve looked it up a bit on the web shouldnt act like captain planet. ALSO I dont have a car or have any say on the way things are run, so my opinion make no difference. Bear this in mind and dont get angry.
Right the way I see it is, as I said, we dont have the knowledge to know shit, I mean us average Joes. Scientists could probably blag me into believeing a lot of things, particularly with the help of emotive videos. I have read articles ranging from GLobal Warming is a terrible reality which is gonna destroy us all to it doesnt even slightly exist and they have all seemed convincing at the time, they all have graphs and technical jargon.
What makes me slightly supicious of this is the way it has become semi religious to a lot of people who really no very little more than i do - even more so the fact that denying global warming nowadays is popularly seen as being about as stupid and bad as denying the holocaust. This all smacks of rabble rousing bandwagon jumping bullshit. There ARE scientists out there ("leading scientists" if it makes it more convincing cos the term is pretty vague) who are very doubtful, but you never hear shit about what they say, largely because it has become so political. Here in the UK its a big factor now among the parties.
NASA now, for example, justify their funding for environmental reasons more than like disocovering a new plantet or whatever. Its the majority of their budget spinner - are they likely to turn round and say "nothing happening", and risk losing their budget? SOUnds conspiratorial I Know, but that doesnt preclude it from being true. In the UK the scientific advisers to the governemtn made their names predicting this kind of thing, and they advance it with UNSCIENTTIFIC certainty and lack of caution.
As to the science, I know f all for myself but seeing as we can predict the weather reliably tommorow, why do we assume we can in 20 years time? Also if we are still sliding out of an Ice Age, why couldnt this be part of a long term trend? ALL of the world used to be covered in Ice a while (geologically speaking) ago, so is it suprising that ice is still melting? Um what else, yeah theres other statistcis out there that say that summers were just as hot earlier in the century like much earlier, statistics can be eaisly manipulated either way, so like i said i dont know.
MY hunch is tho in forty years time, we:l all be fine, but these people banging on now of course will probably have found somethiung else by then. All the same could be true, and obviously I think it would make for a NICER world if we made it a bit less smoke consumed and industrial, and more in harmony with nature or woteva . . . ajyway as i said i cant do fuck all about it anyway, other than recycle, so dont bite my head off just for not being one hundred percent convinced. Actually the way some people chat like its somehting you just CANT disagree on sounds well facist to me lol
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Surora23
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democracy has worked in teh usa for 200yrs roughly... and our country has advanced fucking quicker than any of yoru countries...
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I'm 200 % with ya m8, been recycling for 2 years.... do what I can.
The problem IS industrial and linked to profit... So hard to fight against that I think, and we need a f**** revolution, and that will NEVER happen...
So i'm with ya m8, but I HATE the sentence I quoted....no need to answer my quote, that is si wrong.... you CAN'T think like that man..... |
well im not pointing fingers at any of you guys saying that its YOU guys personally..
its all of our countries faults collectably... but waht i was saying is that... if all of us (in our countries) joined and did have a revolution itd be the only way to start all of this...
ont to say it wont ahppen.. thers a lot of money in the new revolution of ethanol, hydrogen, and electric cars.. as well as a new clean technology era...
all that needs to happen is that the oil comapnies adopt this (obviously it wont ahppen) but these old dudes sitting on their yachts have a hard time seeing that its profitable...
japan and china are making more money with their economic cars than we are... and the rate the usa is going.. in 11 yrs ONLY california will be where china and japan are today...
this isnt too far off with eveyrone else..
and broadside is making a great point here too...
and im nto trying to convince any of yo.. its obviosuly going to be up to each and everyone of yo to make any kind of difference...
but this shit isnt made up guys... its real and its happening...
all i can say for all of you that its extremely important that yo watch the movie...
thats all i ask...
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Surora23
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Originally posted by cynik
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Originally posted by cynik
bah.
the only thing USA has ever done is move its mega-polluting heavy industry out of borders of the US and into the poor asian countries.
so geographically it doesnt mean shit where the factories are, its who owns them. and then go on measuring sources of pollution geographically which is extremely pathetic
on a sidenote, selling the products made in those countries at much higher prices, thus those countries continue starving while the US gets richer
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granted that may be true... our country is rich for that... and it doesnt really matter in this day in age how people get rich anymore so its not liek you can get mad at it...
and the us isnt rich cause of fucking oil companies
everyone of you who doesnt live here needs to do a lil bit more fucking research... |
ok dont mind that second bit.
but the truth stands that the compnies in US are moving heavy industry out of it... which doesnt help at all in terms of global pollution
always all about the fucking money |
but on the flip... thers A LOT of money in waht we can do to help save our earth...
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Surora23
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Originally posted by iKoN aka Philthy
Surora I see this is a touchy subject for you, as it is for me, but I would never go to the extreme that u are. Either people will get it, and do something, or people wont. You cant post 20 different things trying to force people to think like you. The matter of fact thing, and probably the only thing everyone can agree on, is the enviorment is fucked, and it is due to PEOPLE, I am not gonna single out one country because people will agree or disagree, just look at the facts and make ur baosis on that. Yes America is a big player innit, because of our standard of life. But you saying that we are the richest country ,and that democracy has worked for 200 yrs ,is the most complete horseshit I have ever heard. Llook at were we are at, in the means, of the eyes of the world. Believe it or not, all countries hate us. Yes we are the most powerful, but we try and push our belief and way of life (hence Iraq democracy) onto others as u are trying to do now with your enviorment talk. And I dont know about u, but I think politics are shaddier than a 12yr drug dealer in an alley in NYC.....soo.....were does that lead us......we all will agree on things, and some things we wont, and thats why i thought u were posting this up, to GET peoples opinions, not to force urs. Just take a step back, and read ur posts, and see......is it worth it to get so hostile??
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poliotics have by far destroyed our country.. but if you had washington and all of our founding fathers look down on our country today and they would be ashamed...
democracy today obviously isnt what it should be...
but that doesnt change the fact that it has worked... and we are supposidly the #1 country in teh world because of it...
NO ONE can deny the success of our country...
and not a lot of countries hate US< they hate our leaders...
change the presidency to democraty in 2008 and watch things change dramatically... i could almost garuntee that...
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04-12-2006 22:09 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by greyone
@ surora:
at least i dont use the word f*ck a dozen times to superior my statement.
an extremist you are , and only a few words between your f*ck's are 100% true
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minus the fucks.. the facts that i have stated... are true... do your reserach brotha.... watch the movie..
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