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Surora23 
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Global warming is a serious issue, that many have failed to recognize... After watching the al gore movie, an inconveniant truth... ive decided that its an un debatable ethical issue that everyone should be addressing right now...
www.climatecrisis.net
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02-12-2006 22:59 |
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Philthy McNasty
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I dont know if u know this, but enviormentalist say that even if we shut down all factories, quit driving, and come up with a different way for waste removal, it would still take 50+ yrs to even start to get the ecosystem back in check. Which I dunno about u guys wont be in my life time. So, it is a very big issue, but our greed as a people has done this to our eco, so now we must bask in the shittyness, and from the looks of it, its just gonna get worse and worse. Good post though! Definetly a debateable subject, but those are my thoughts. And I dunno how many people are in the states, but me and surora and a few others on here, have to suffer the most. Americas greed was the beginning of this downfall. Bigger,better,bigger,better, but no one took the time to see the bigger picture and see what was happening around us, until now, but now it seems too late
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03-12-2006 02:49 |
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we're all to blame, but america just doesnt give a fuck!
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03-12-2006 03:57 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by iKoN aka Philthy
I dont know if u know this, but enviormentalist say that even if we shut down all factories, quit driving, and come up with a different way for waste removal, it would still take 50+ yrs to even start to get the ecosystem back in check. Which I dunno about u guys wont be in my life time. So, it is a very big issue, but our greed as a people has done this to our eco, so now we must bask in the shittyness, and from the looks of it, its just gonna get worse and worse. Good post though! Definetly a debateable subject, but those are my thoughts. And I dunno how many people are in the states, but me and surora and a few others on here, have to suffer the most. Americas greed was the beginning of this downfall. Bigger,better,bigger,better, but no one took the time to see the bigger picture and see what was happening around us, until now, but now it seems too late |
youre wrong... watch this movie and do more research... if we stopped everything now... the co2 levels in the atmosphere would stabalise and then decrease.......
now everything else youre right, but untill you start spitting lil bits of facts... please watchy this movie... its importabt...
and fuck you glim...
europe is one of the largest contributors as well, along with china...
granted
the US is the #1 contributor, dont say that we dont give a fuck... we have a few hundred cities already pleadging to do everythin they can to stop this...
california (holywood) is already switching to carbon free way of working... so dont point fingers, thats the exact problem...
the next time anyone gets in tehir lil gas or ethanol car, just remember youre contributing.. EVERYONE contributes to this problem every single day...
DO NOT point fingers... just change your lifestyle... and maybe in the next 20 yrs we wont die... (if that sounds extreme to you, watch the movie)
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03-12-2006 10:13 |
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I've got mosquitos in my room, its fucking december...
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03-12-2006 10:28 |
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Glim
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03-12-2006 11:52 |
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Philthy McNasty
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Jimmy if u wanna get technical, volcanoes errupted on the regular back then, which produced mass amounts co2, nitrogen, and sulfur, which destroyed the ozone innits self. Which some scientists think led to that. And since the ice age alot of the volcanoes are now non existent or dormant. Volcanoes = naturnal eco polutent, but also produces alot of the oxygen that we breath, so its a catch22. And Surora, I have watched ALOT about this dont take what 1 video says watch a bunch of them, they all have different opinions, they are scientists\enviormentalists that is their jobs, to hypothesize, u cant base ur whole theory on what 1 video says. But much respekt for putting thiis up, because its good to talk about better things than DnB, and catz on acid 
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03-12-2006 17:32 |
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i do dear to say that america doesn't give a fuck, what other reason would there be to not sign the kyoto agreement about polution?
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03-12-2006 18:03 |
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Philthy McNasty
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America as a whole doesnt care, but people like me, surora, and alot of others just not the people that truly matter financially when it comes down to it...CARE! But there is things we can do to make it better, but it just seems to late, and it would take an overall effort.
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03-12-2006 18:09 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C
i think that what we do isnt that much of a factor in it.
it has been researched into that the climate change is actually a natural cycle of this planet.
how did you think it went from being hot to going into the ice age then back to hot again all on its owns without human intervention??
they have also recently proved that the Co2 levels present in the ice age were actually higher than they are now.
also other planets in our solar system have somthing to do with it.
our orbit takes a year but planets like pluto take hundreds of years.
and its orbit is not entirely circluar so when pluto is at ists closest to sun (and other planets as well) their gravatational pull may actually be pulling us away from the sun making the planet colder. but on the flip side to that is that when the planets are further away we actually get closer to the sun making it hotter.
but granted we arnt really helping things |
again ignorant comments spat out by people who dont knwo what theyre tlaking about.. until everyone of you watches this movie.... shut the fuck up about this issue...
NONE OF US KNOW ENOUGH,
and jimmy youre wrong... ill give yo a lil bit of the facts on this issue...
over the last 650,000 years our leading scientist have been able to determin the about of co2 levels in teh atmosphere along with the temperature...
tehres a direct relation between both, (when c02 goes up, temperature goes up)
our recorded temperatures(and co2 levels) from our civil war (in the usa) did nothing but increase after our industrial revolution...
now... if youve noticed, our world has had the highest temperatures in teh last 14 yrs (atleast in teh use) the last 6 being since 2000...
(the graph shown in the movie) the co2 levels have done NOTHING BUT INCREEASE...
NOW... over hte LAST 650000 YEARS THE CO2 LEVESL HAVE NEVER RASISED 300 PARTS PER MILLION...
just today... TODAY we have doubled that... (way above the natural cycle of earth) so jimmy youre wrong...
the leading scientist have indicated that if nothing is done the co2 levels will double that... (with a direct relatino with temperature, wahts that on the temperature sifde?)
teh worlds average temperature has been 59 degreees ferhinheit...
so if that triples.... tell me if you can liuve your everyday life... i dont think so... YOU WILL DIE...
then what will happen (and is happening right now!) is ice from antarctica and greenland will melt... if this happens the sea level all around the earth will increase 20 ft...
now all that lovely cold ice melted will stop teh gulf stream... etc (the underwater currents driving our seasons year round) if this happens, it will throw the earth into an ice age, just liek the last one 11,000 years ago...
so.. if in... less tahn our lifetime, we will die then go into an ice age, id suggest that everyone of you
STOP POINTING THE FUCKING FINGERS, DO SOME RESEARCH AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!
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03-12-2006 21:32 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by Surora23
[quote]Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C
i think that what we do isnt that much of a factor in it.
it has been researched into that the climate change is actually a natural cycle of this planet.
how did you think it went from being hot to going into the ice age then back to hot again all on its owns without human intervention??
they have also recently proved that the Co2 levels present in the ice age were actually higher than they are now.
also other planets in our solar system have somthing to do with it.
our orbit takes a year but planets like pluto take hundreds of years.
and its orbit is not entirely circluar so when pluto is at ists closest to sun (and other planets as well) their gravatational pull may actually be pulling us away from the sun making the planet colder. but on the flip side to that is that when the planets are further away we actually get closer to the sun making it hotter.
but granted we arnt really helping things |
ps... theres a reason why they were higher, but they were not higher than now...
and i dont know who taught you your science, but hes or she is a fucking idiot...
pluto isnt even a planet, theyve said that it was a stray moon from uranus, or perhaps jupiter or satturn..quote]
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03-12-2006 21:37 |
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Surora23
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heres a graph simply explaining what i said above...
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03-12-2006 21:44 |
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Surora23
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heres another
(red line being our temperatures over the last 1000 yrs IN CELCIUS!)
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03-12-2006 21:46 |
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Surora23
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1. TEMPERATURE CHANGES: The red line shows how scientists believe the average temperature on Earth has changed over the last thousand years – measured in degrees Celsius below or above the temperature in 1990. The gray area shows how much higher or lower scientists think the real temperatures may have been. (You can see that they are more uncertain about the temperatures the further back in history they go.) For the years 1000-1860, scientists have tried to reconstruct the temperature in the Northern Hemisphere by studying tree rings, corals, ice samples and written documents. (They have too little information about temperatures in the Southern Hemisphere before 1860.) From 1860-2000, the temperature has been measured using thermometers all over the world. The curves for 2000-2100 show how scientists believe the climate could change in the future due to changing emissions of greenhouse gases (see next unit). Source: IPCC (click to enlarge, 54 kB)
There are many different kinds of greenhouse gases. Most of the manmade contribution to the greenhouse effect is due to emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2). Carbon dioxide occurs naturally in the atmosphere but the concentration of CO2 has increased dramatically since the Industrial Revolution. This increase is mostly, if not completely, caused by people. Other greenhouse gases such as methane (CH4) have also increased. The atmosphere now also contains several greenhouse gases that do not occur naturally in the atmosphere and can only have come from human activity (read more about observed changes in the atmosphere’s concentrations of greenhouse gases here). The concentration of the important greenhouse gas, water vapor, has also increased. Increased water vapor in the air is not a direct result of emissions of water. Instead it occurs as the indirectly through emissions of other greenhouse gases. Higher temperatures in the atmosphere lead to greater evaporation from the Earth's surface and a greater capacity of the atmosphere to retain moisture.
2. MORE AND MORE CO2: Concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere from the year 1000 to the year 2000 (ppm means parts per million, or liters CO2 per million liters of air). Scientists analyze old ice from glaciers to find out how much CO2 there was in the atmosphere. Over recent years they have also analyzed air samples taken directly from the atmosphere. Concentrations after 2000 are estimates which depend on how much CO2 people emit (see next unit). Source: IPCC (click to enlarge, 33 kB)
Human activities also increase the amount of particles in the atmosphere. Some of these have a cooling effect which counteracts the greenhouse effect. For example, when sulphur dioxide (SO2) is emitted into the air, it is converted into particles which reflect sunlight and therefore reduce the amount of solar radiation which reaches the Earth. Cntrary to most greenhouse gases which stay in the atmosphere for many, sometimes thousands, of years, particles remain airborne only for a few days. Thus, the cooling effect of particles is short-lived and limited to certain areas.
Human influence comes in addition to all the natural factors that have always affected the Earth’s climate. The climate is affected by conditions outside the Earth’s atmosphere (for example, the intensity of the Sun and small variations in the shape of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun). The climate is also affected by natural processes in the Earth’s atmosphere, the oceans, vegetation, and snow and ice cover. These factors combine with human influence to shape the Earth’s climate.
A warmer climate will change the planet in many different ways. As the Earth warms, sea levels rise. An even warmer atmosphere will lead to further sea-level rise. This is mainly because higher temperatures in the oceans cause the water to expand, which means it takes up more room. This increased need for space pushes the surface of the ocean upwards. In addition, higher temperatures in the atmosphere cause many glaciers to melt. Parts of the huge ice caps covering Antarctica and Greenland could start melting. The runoff flows into the ocean adding to the rising sea level. Ice floating in the ocean in the Artic regions near the North Pole will also melt, but since the ice is already floating in the ocean, this will not have any effect on the sea level.
Higher air temperatures will also cause more water to evaporate. This may increase drought in some places and increase rainfall in others – if the water vapor creates rain clouds. A warmer atmosphere can also change prevailing wind directions and ocean currents. The warming will not be evenly distributed throughout the planet; some places may become much warmer, while other place may even become colder (read more about some observed changes in physical climate here). In Unit 2 you can read about how we expect climate to change over the next hundred years and what the consequences will be for people, animals and plants. In Unit 3 you can read about what we can do to slow down climate change.
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03-12-2006 21:47 |
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Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by Surora23
the US is the #1 contributor, dont say that we dont give a fuck... we have a few hundred cities already pleadging to do everythin they can to stop this...
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Yeah, right, like signing the Kyoto protocol, you mean? 
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04-12-2006 14:47 |
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oh well shiver me timbers im still alive and the ice age hasnt kicked in yet.
we b doomed i tell ye doomed.
wheres cpt. manwaring when u need him
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04-12-2006 14:51 |
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Greyone
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tss people people , just lay down with the fack the you are going to die once and the world is going to end once.
maybe in the future they will find new solutions , and i bet they will.
but now with a bit driving on eco-oil and a bit less hairspray wont give a damn to be helping the world's eco system.
and i really hope the world will change , with eco system change or not
sorry but i dont realy bother bout that , i do bother about pollution and stuff but the most pollution is the factories , the quiet governement (asbest polution , radiation polution , chemicals in drinkwater ,...) and the whole fucking globe who's already poisoned by ages of experiments and wasting.
greyone for president
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04-12-2006 14:53 |
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