 Tempo changes and Acid Pro |
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I've run into a little problem in Acid Pro...
I'm working on a track right now that has a tempo speedup in the middle of the track, going from 70-85bpm. Its a dubbish type track so theres a bunch of delay effects in it. One particular sample I use has a dotted 16th note multidelay on it and appears in both the 70 and 80bpm portions of the tune.
Now during playback in Acid, the delay effect conforms to the tempo of the part that its in, speeding up in the second part. Where I run into my problem is when I export to MP3. I export the track, play it back and the delay stays at 70 bpm for the whole track...
Anybody else have this problem or know how to solve it?
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30-10-2006 16:13 |
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er. i dont uise it but try mixing down just the delayed part an see if its still the same. if it works import it back into the track, mute the other bit and then try exporting. just a guess though
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30-10-2006 16:22 |
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Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing...
I'm wondering if there is a way to fix this error though, in case i run into this with a more complex track. Plus, I also run into problems with the quality of wav mixdowns and such.
thanks for thte advide 
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30-10-2006 16:31 |
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You have to set the range for each section. Put the marker for 85 bpm,then highlight everything after the marker and add your delay with the assignable fx to tthe section then do the same for the 70. You may have to tweak out the delays to match up for them to sound the same though. Hope that helps
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30-10-2006 18:41 |
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Originally posted by Surora23
... also are you tempo chaning right?
...ALSO check the parameters on your delay effect... its possible taht there is a glitch and you have to reload the vst...
and instead of rendreing to mp3 render a 24bit wav... ive found that acid does better rendering waves than mp3's |
Yup, I'm using markers for the tempo change. The vst i'm using is the regular sonic foundry Simple Delay thats stock in Acid. I figure it is just a glitch seeing as it plays back at the correct speed in the program but not in the mixdown.
and i'll give the 24bit wav a try.
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Originally posted by iKoN aka Philthy
You have to set the range for each section. Put the marker for 85 bpm,then highlight everything after the marker and add your delay with the assignable fx to tthe section then do the same for the 70. You may have to tweak out the delays to match up for them to sound the same though. Hope that helps |
I dont get what you mean when you say "highlight everything after the marker and add your delay with the assignable fx to tthe section then do the same for the 70." Do i just have to clone the sample and have one for the 70 and one for the 85 part?
I should also add that the song changes back to 70 at the end...
Could that be the problem?
I'll give these suggestions a try when i get home tonight.
Thanks again for the feedback
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30-10-2006 19:35 |
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Ok check it.....put the temp of the entire track on 70, then add a tempo change marker and set it to 85, then set another marker where you want it to go back to 70. Then use the arrow and highlight everything in the 85 section and goto tools and hit assignable fx add your delay, but you have to put the markers in the right spot. <---the bigg ass red line that appears. There are two boxes on that line. Put the first box starting at your first temp change, then put the second box on the end of the 85 bpm section. Repeat if needed. If you need more help, I am all about helping you out, but if this doesnt explain it, I think you are meaning something else. But all I use is AP for my mixdowns so i know quit a bit about the AP program overall, but i am sure surora knows slightly more if there is something I cant help you with
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30-10-2006 19:47 |
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Ok, i think i'm getting what your saying now.
I must sound like such a dolt but i'm not infront of my workstation right now so it'll be easier to understand i'm actually in Acid.
Thanks for the KarmaFX hookup, i'll install that when i get home.
[i'll re-edit this when i try your suggestions]
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30-10-2006 21:46 |
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Originally posted by iKoN aka Philthy
You know what I just though of an easier way. Duplicate your sample and add the delay to it, and take away the delay from the 70bpm part, because the delay will sound alot different at two different bpms thats why you have to set it again for the 85. That is alot easier if you just need it for one sample. Add the reason your vst is glitching is because you are probably working with AP5 and it only comes with the demo and it starts beeping after 10 or so seconds. But check out KarmaFX it is a 10 times better simple delay than the one that comes with Sony anyways. but if you need it for dubby slow slam effects you cant get that with the Karma one. |
agreed
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Rinse it OUT!!!! 
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31-10-2006 14:45 |
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Ok, I tried the assignable fx route (which was actually insert < assignable fx) but no markers or bigass red lines appeared. 
Maybe this is because I'm using AP5, but i've never experienced any beeping or any thing like iKon stated.
I ended up just rendering the second delayed sample and dropping it back in the track. Sounds good at 24bit (cheers Surora)
I havent installed the KarmaFX yet but I'll probably end up replacing the delays with that anyway.
Thanks again
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