drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » Rex Loops, Loops, Beats, How do you go about making a beat. Rex Loops, Loops, Beats, How do you go about making a beat. Author Post Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  Ok so Im tired of writing my own beats. How do you all go about writing a beat? I know you can take rex loops , take out slices you dont want and have slices you do want trigerring your own samples by routing them to the gate in of a redrum, but isnt there a more simplistic way of using loops? loops advice please! __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 15-10-2006 12:19 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  more simple than that??? lmao! in todays software u got slicing tools. they do the job for you. then you got the sequencing programs, any decent ones use rex loops. I wonder how would you get your head if you started at pre-2000. these things werent possible, you had to do all that manually. yet people came up with killer tunes __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 15-10-2006 12:23 smifff Cool Tourist Registration Date: 08-10-2006 Posts: 28 Gotta say i'm completely confused with that, i thought the whole idea of using Rex's was so you COULD manipulate samples how you wanted . Coming from a hardware background , the saying ' don't know your born ' springs to mind.. The advent of software is sooooooo much quicker and easier, surely you don't want to make tunes just from a loop. __ 15-10-2006 12:36 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  i dont think you understood. I just wanna know how you use loops. i.e. how do you manipulate them, how do you use them to help you make beats? I make them manuallly. So you are saying you just use them to take individual samples from them ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 15-10-2006 14:04 smifff Cool Tourist Registration Date: 08-10-2006 Posts: 28 i just take a drum break or whatever, stick it through ReCycle to chop it up , and reconstruct the break to how i wanted it using the individual edits.. From your first post i take it your using Reason , do you ever use the drum map on the DRex ?? __ 15-10-2006 15:17 Philthy McNasty Florida DnB Masta! Registration Date: 23-07-2006 Posts: 1,088 Helpfulness rating:  The best beat slicer that I have used is the built in chopper in Acid Pro. Recycle would do the trick if you just, needed to chop a simple 2 step break. __ http://www.myspace.com/philthydubbish 16-10-2006 01:58 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  i take a rex i like usually some source break and layer the fuck out of it with snares and kicks.. (usually the hats are clean enough with sojme good eq, and a touch of verb) eq all hits individually and then slightly(i mean this) SLIGHTLY compress them all back together.. simple.. or maybe im missing the point. __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 16-10-2006 23:39 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  yeah i use the drum map from dr rex, what i do is to remove any bit that isnt a kick for example then link that to a gate in of redrum (with a kick sample and maybe cv split it) , and do the same for the other elements... thought someone may have another ingenius way of working tings ! __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 17-10-2006 18:38 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by Digital Cause yeah i use the drum map from dr rex, what i do is to remove any bit that isnt a kick for example then link that to a gate in of redrum (with a kick sample and maybe cv split it) , and do the same for the other elements... thought someone may have another ingenius way of working tings ! explain this a little more if you would please?? cause i dont quite follow what you are saying.. __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 17-10-2006 20:19 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  if you load up a rex loop that you like into dr rex, and put it "to track" I then would go to the edit page and audition all the sounds, and remove on one track for example, any element that is not a Kick drum. I would then connect the gate out of that dr rex to the gate in of a kick sample in a redrum, and turn down the dr rex completely, so basicly you are getting the loop to play your own sample where the kick on the loop was. Then I would load up another dr rex, put the same loop to track, and remove every sound that isnt a snare for eg, and hook up that to another redrum channel with a snare in it. If you want to layer your snare etc, you can use a spyder cv to split the gate to a few redrum voices..... Thats how I use loops..... Im sure there is a better way ! __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 18-10-2006 16:23 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  wow.. that is a really weird and unncececary complicated way of doing things for sure why don't you just use the sequencer? if you want another device to play the same pattern just copy the parts from one device to the other. simple __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 18-10-2006 17:12 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  yeah jesus chrsit man.. why not load the drrex into the nnxt and then layer your hits that way.. __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 19-10-2006 01:50 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  this is why i asked __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 22-10-2006 01:07 Scurf Cool Producer Registration Date: 26-10-2006 Posts: 164 Helpfulness rating:  Why not to try this.... Load .rcy or .rex. or even .mp3 (in slicer in FL) drum loop and then "choping" it to 1/8 and 1/16 and then rearangent it? Example... Load Dr.REX in Reason. Load a .rex drum loop. Paste to track. Go to reason`s sequencer. Set quantize to 1/8. Create groups of the drumloop on every 1/8 note. You will have in this way 8 diferent groups and then try to rearange them. The one that was first will be now third, the sixth will be now 8th, the 8th will be now 1st, etc, etc... It is most simple way that I now 26-10-2006 22:23 Ghost unregistered quote: Originally posted by Arkitekt yeah jesus chrsit man.. why not load the drrex into the nnxt and then layer your hits that way.. 26-10-2006 22:29 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  basicly im just fascinated by how some producers get such complex beats in their tunes, and I aint got a clue how they do it, whether its just endless time working on them paying careful attention to detail like velocity or whether there is some sort of plug in that im missing, I still dont get the technique you lot are talking about though, it seems to me by re-arranging loops as talked about above you are just hoping to stumble upon cool patterns, which i havnt got a problem with, but i just cant see the same complexity occuring out of that as i hear in some tracks __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 27-10-2006 00:12 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  lol youre thinking too much try this take a loop you have and adore. in every drum loop sounds are reapeating. erase evey kick but the first one. put the first kick in missing places where other kicks were. do that with the snare, the highats etc. minimize usage of samples as much as possible. then copy that pattern to your own drums. you now have your drums playing that loop you loaded first which should give you a good idea how that drum loop was programmed.. __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 27-10-2006 00:58 Scurf Cool Producer Registration Date: 26-10-2006 Posts: 164 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by cynik lol youre thinking too much try this take a loop you have and adore. in every drum loop sounds are reapeating. erase evey kick but the first one. put the first kick in missing places where other kicks were. do that with the snare, the highats etc. minimize usage of samples as much as possible. then copy that pattern to your own drums. you now have your drums playing that loop you loaded first which should give you a good idea how that drum loop was programmed.. Yeah right.... and you can save it as MIDI and then to load other drums in it.... There are many ways how to create such complex drum sequences... there is also layering two different loops one is usualy set to band pass filter and moved 1/16 forward,with shortened decay on it.... pitched, slighty distorted and one main drum loop. And there are many tools for doing this. Recycle, Acid, Abelton(Dj Live set), Wavesurgeon... and many many more... 27-10-2006 01:25 Digital Cause Player Registration Date: 06-07-2006 Posts: 447 Helpfulness rating:  erase every kick but the first one and put the first one in missing places where the other kicks were? __ www.myspace.com/digitalcause www.myspace.com/mysterious1000 01-11-2006 16:41 sssonarrr Cool Steppa Registration Date: 16-05-2005 Posts: 203 Helpfulness rating:  yeah, just delete every kick, get rid of them except for the first one. this first kick you are gonna use as your basic kick, so you put it in every place where an other kick is (was). __ laborecordings 01-11-2006 18:03 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Production questions & answers » Rex Loops, Loops, Beats, How do you go about making a beat.