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Philthy McNasty Philthy McNasty is a male

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Whats up everyone. I need some help, I am "attempting" Big Grin

to make a roller tune. The shaker is a really fast paced one. The only song I have ever heard that had it, was Mampi Swift - Trippin. But I tried to sample it from the song, and I got the shit ass kick in the background from one of the other layered beats under it. Any help??

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02-10-2006 02:28

Paki

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Try to layer open with a closed hat...
What i mean here is to use the "body" of the open hat and the atack of the closed hat...
To avoid the "bienia" of the hats try to cut down the attack of the open hat ...
You can do this with envelope but I prefer to use Sound Forge and then I use paste special mix... Tongue

02-10-2006 19:32

Surora23 Surora23 is a male

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Originally posted by iKoN
Whats up everyone. I need some help, I am "attempting" Big Grin

um.... why dont you just make the shaker

all that is, is rapid sequenced hats and shaker
and voila

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02-10-2006 23:30

Paki

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Originally posted by Surora23

quote:

Originally posted by iKoN
Whats up everyone. I need some help, I am "attempting" Big Grin

um.... why dont you just make the shaker

all that is, is rapid sequenced hats and shaker
and voila

Yeah it is very simple Confused

03-10-2006 19:46

Philthy McNasty Philthy McNasty is a male

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yeah I am attempting to do it. But you gotta understand I am still new to this producing thing. Its only been 4 months, so I am not really on point about everything. Thanks Paki for the detailed description of how to do it but I attempted it and it doesnt sound right

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03-10-2006 19:51

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Originally posted by iKoN
yeah I am attempting to do it. But you gotta understand I am still new to this producing thing. Its only been 4 months, so I am not really on point about everything. Thanks Paki for the detailed description of how to do it but I attempted it and it doesnt sound right

if you can't fit it, sounds wrong, try to alter the attack and decay settings on the shakers, the groove of the beats depend hevily on those. for that you need to slice the sequence up and set them on each slice, or set them on individual samples, whatever the technique

also, for a very fast paced track, see whats going on with the sample starts. check does the sample play from the hit itself or maybe a few milliseconds before which is common for using sounds chopped off from a recording (it's been humanized) thus not being synced to the beat itself

you will notice if the sample starts on hit when you open it in a wave editor and zoom right to the beginning of it, it will have sort of a fade-in

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03-10-2006 20:46

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it's not clear where is the start position. then you must set the sample postion by ear

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03-10-2006 20:59

Paki

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You can`t layer any or random opened and closed hats Tongue

You have to choose the RIGHT SOUND TO LAYER. Wink

Cynik also gave a detailed tips on layering in Sound Forge. I prefer Sound forge because it is more profetional sound editing tool, but if u can`t DEFINE the right sound to layer(opened and closed hat) u can use AMPLITUDE(AMP) ENVELOPE IN FLSTUDIO(u have here also ins and outs on sample),REASON(awesome NNXT),CUBASE, NUENDO, TRACKTION etc etc...
Find the right sound sounds in some of theese programs or any u might use, and then mark them and do the layering then in Sound Forge, WaveLab, or any similar Tongue

03-10-2006 21:30

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Originally posted by Paki

You can`t layer any or random opened and closed hats Tongue

You have to choose the RIGHT SOUND TO LAYER. Wink

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03-10-2006 22:36

Paki

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Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C

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Originally posted by Paki

You can`t layer any or random opened and closed hats Tongue

You have to choose the RIGHT SOUND TO LAYER. Wink

04-10-2006 01:03

Surora23 Surora23 is a male

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actually if yo read what you wrote... it really doesnt make sence...

#1 ikon... to make rapid hats... its not relaly hard... if yo dont have the sounds then go online and download some samples... tehrs pleanty on the website here...

to make a rapid hat/shaker....

all you have to do is sequence them close together

ex.
1...2...3...4...1...2...3...4...

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

instead of having a hat/hats at every 1.2.3.4 or every space inbetwen rapid sequence them... its not rocket sceince bro

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04-10-2006 02:55

Philthy McNasty Philthy McNasty is a male

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i got ya on that surora its just the matter of not ever attempting it before so it isnt as easy as it is for u. But i got iit down once cynik and paki described it to me

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04-10-2006 03:45

Paki

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Originally posted by Surora23
actually if yo read what you wrote... it really doesnt make sence...

It is the art of drm layering... what u can`t understand here folks Confused

2 hats... one open and one closed....
Cut the ATTACK of the opened.... COPY the ATTACK of the closed and PASTE IT ON THE OPENED HAT Red Face

#2... to select the RIGHT SOUNDS(HATS) TO LAYER THEY HAVE TO BE SIMILLAR IN FREQS AND PITCH... THEREFORE U CAN PREWIEV THEM IN SOME OTHER SEQUENCER(CUBASE,LOGIC,REASON,FL,TRACTION OR WHATEVER)...

oh well at least iKON understood, i`m glad that I helped him Tongue

04-10-2006 12:30

D2o

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Originally posted by Paki

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Originally posted by Surora23
actually if yo read what you wrote... it really doesnt make sence...

It is the art of drm layering... what u can`t understand here folks Confused

2 hats... one open and one closed....
Cut the ATTACK of the opened.... COPY the ATTACK of the closed and PASTE IT ON THE OPENED HAT Red Face

i can understand the "art of drm layering"

as you put it

but not how you wrote it

dont patronise me, prick

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04-10-2006 13:08

Paki

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Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C

quote:

Originally posted by Paki

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Originally posted by Surora23
actually if yo read what you wrote... it really doesnt make sence...

It is the art of drm layering... what u can`t understand here folks Confused

2 hats... one open and one closed....
Cut the ATTACK of the opened.... COPY the ATTACK of the closed and PASTE IT ON THE OPENED HAT Red Face

i can understand the "art of drm layering"

as you put it

but not how you wrote it

dont patronise me, prick

I never intended to patronise u or to be someones "tutor" . Sory if I`ve offended u , and please excuse my Enghlish, I`m not a native speaker. Mad

I`ve just tried to explain it more and in the most simple way Shocked

I`m not some kind of evildoer for it right? Frown

Again, I`m sorry if u feeled disgraced and meek Frown

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04-10-2006 14:51

D2o

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the whole laughing at me for not understanding what you had siad really pissed me off

but its ok Big Grin

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04-10-2006 15:01

Paki

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quote:

Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C
the whole laughing at me for not understanding what you had siad really pissed me off

but its ok Big Grin

The laughing wasn`t about you, but on the whole picture Big Grin

04-10-2006 16:51

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quote:

Originally posted by Dj Jimmy C
the whole laughing at me for not understanding what you had siad really pissed me off

but its ok Big Grin

violent shaker. lol

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04-10-2006 16:52

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