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try it.

http://www.nuskoolbreaks.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=58598
01-10-2006 03:31
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i actually have been doing something similar to this recently.

no goona try wit those settings Big Grin

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try it.

http://www.nuskoolbreaks.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=58598


he jsut explained the best way to compress drums guys Smile

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01-10-2006 05:34
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I've made a fatenizing device to be used as a mixer send in Reason 3 using this technique.

anyone interested pm me

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17-10-2006 22:53 Homepage of cynik
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yeah ive made a combinator that i just stick on one of the sends Big Grin

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17-10-2006 22:56 Homepage of D2o
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ps this is also how you side chain... also sending the kick to a bus, with a sub on teh same bus send... which triggers the compression on every kick, making that sub pump.. deff worth practicing in tunes...

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18-10-2006 09:59
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yeah. if you want more movement with the sub, sidechaining to the kick is the way. even the entire drum section

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sweet this is what i need to get into...

i dont use reason or logic though... so i dont really know what his talkin about in the first couple of steps.

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are you working with fruity? in that case, it ain't all too hard.

you send your drums to "FX 1"

you bring down the slider from "send 1"

you send your drums from "FX 1" to "send 1"

and from there on just follow the steps (you are now @ step 5) given by the man from the article.

if you're not working with fruity, i just gave you another answer that is useless to you.

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Nice. I added this to the Tutorials / Knowledge base thread (read all production related informations here!) drums section.

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19-10-2006 01:37 Homepage of Muad'Dib
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quote:
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Nice. I added this to the Tutorials / Knowledge base thread (read all production related informations here!) drums section.


it can be used on anything, but with a little tweaking with the compressor and eq

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Lol weird technique, will give phase trouble when the signal on the send is delayed by the latency of the plugins. You'll need to put a delay on the original signal to compensate for this. Getting it right will take you some serious tweaking or you'll need to record both signals and measure the latency.

The compensating delay on the original channel needs to be inserted after the send so you will need to switch the inserts after the auxes, and I'm not sure if this is possible with all software.

There are some really old optical compressors that work exactly like this, mixing the compressed and non-compressed parts together. In the analog domain there is very little latency so it can be pulled off easier.

All it does really is a troublesome way to get bootstrap compression, this can be much more easily done by simply slapping a bootstrap compressor on the insert Smile

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ive had no trouble with phasing with this technique. not that i can hear anyway (which doesnt say much). surely it depends on the amount of send and how you mix the signals?

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All it does really is a troublesome way to get bootstrap compression, this can be much more easily done by simply slapping a bootstrap compressor on the insert Smile


can you give an example of a digital bootsrap compressor?

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hardware example:
Drawmer DC2476

software example:
Dynam-izer

A bootstrap compressor works by compressing the signal that is *below* a certain threshold, so it keeps the peaks intact but reduces the dynamics by bringing up the soft parts.

Many expanders can do this too, if they allow the ratio to be turned the other way, e.g. a 3:1 ratio instead of a 1:3 ratio.

You can do this in any dynamic processor that allows you to adjust the ratio below a certain threshold. Check out the screenshot from Sound Forge below.

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yeah, fill me in
19-10-2006 10:19
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quote:
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hardware example:
Drawmer DC2476


can you lend me 2200 euros Crying

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quote:
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software example:
Dynam-izer


looks like a bastard to use Crying

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iam gonna try the send compression tech using hardware.....i'll report back Wink

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quote:
Originally posted by thechronic
hardware example:
Drawmer DC2476

software example:
Dynam-izer

A bootstrap compressor works by compressing the signal that is *below* a certain threshold, so it keeps the peaks intact but reduces the dynamics by bringing up the soft parts.

Many expanders can do this too, if they allow the ratio to be turned the other way, e.g. a 3:1 ratio instead of a 1:3 ratio.

You can do this in any dynamic processor that allows you to adjust the ratio below a certain threshold. Check out the screenshot from Sound Forge below.


Really cool! But I think it needs to be combined with ordinary compression to get the punch of the attack slippin trough the compressor. This adds more energy to the transients.
Can rhis be done with waves expanders?

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