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Please check out my new track 'brink', post your comments here and vote for it!!!

this tune was the first tune i finished in logic. most of the sounds came from my korg ms_2000. mastering is my biggest weakness...input and tips are needed! thanks for listening

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23-09-2006 23:29 Homepage of short-wave
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Hi Short-wave,
the sound is really interesting, I´ve never worked with Logic, but it sounds fucking good. The kick drum seems a bit drowned in the tune thought. I thought its gonna be more punchy in around 1:30, but the the beat somehow blended into the bassline( which sounds a bit strange imo). I like the sound in around 3:40, the bassline is really nice but the beat is too repetitive. I would recommend to put some attention on the kick drum.

Anyway the whole thing sounds good, I liked it, although it was kinda repetitive and a bit boring in the end

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Not really diggin the kick in the intro. Break comes in very steppy, I like. Even though everything isnt loud enough. Main break comes in like the bassline if the whole tracks volume was turned up. Im not really one for unedited drums, but I guess you were going for the whole 2step thing. I am liking the choppy vox throughout even though when and if you turn everything up make sure you turn the volume down on it because it will overpower the track. Good use of lead in FX, not to bad....needs some mastering and fine tuning.! Nice one Drummer

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Intro is kinda cool, though I think it is way too long.

That snare and especially that bass drum roll b4 the drop aren't working at all.

The bass is nice, has a good neuro growl to it.

The Fx are really nice.

That bass drum needs some layering or something, it doesn't have much punch to it.

Some slight changes to the drum patterns would add a lot, they are really quite consistent as they are now.

Those bongos or whatever are a nice touch.

I think this song has a lot of potential, but it is a bit boring as it is right now.

Keep working on it, lots of great elements, and definitely potential for a nice track.

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24-09-2006 08:24 Homepage of hardplnsdrftr
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Originally posted by hardplnsdrftr
Intro is kinda cool, though I think it is way too long. when i first started producing i had been djing for about 4 years. i more or less "traced" tracks out. i would start my sequencer at the same time as i played a track on a 1200. i would place markers at every major change and drop. kinda like cheating... most of the big tunes getting played out i noticed have a much longer intros than the one i used on "brink". i try to make a solid piece of tune to beatmatch to and introduce some of the main elements of the new track being mixed.

oddly enuff i have really noticed as of late most producers are not djs and do not have hundreds of records to reference to when try to figure out the proper structure. not everyone wants to make a tune with a predictable structure. i like making tunes that will be second nature for a dj to mix. that is what will get played on the dancefloor...my opinion.


That snare and especially that bass drum roll b4 the drop aren't working at all. yeah, it's fucking cheese central. i was so stuck on the intro and sound selection i kinda got lazy in places.

The bass is nice, has a good neuro growl to it. thank you! shit had me twisted

The Fx are really nice.

That bass drum needs some layering or something, it doesn't have much punch to it. i gotta learn to start building correctly from the start of the tunes creation. i was lazy with this too. i didn't wanna go back and make it shine.

Some slight changes to the drum patterns would add a lot, they are really quite consistent as they are now. i get locked up in subtle changes rather then working on the spine of the track. DRUMS

Those bongos or whatever are a nice touch.

I think this song has a lot of potential, but it is a bit boring as it is right now. i plan to move on to a new tune. thank you for your input. never again will i be caught giving up a weak kick drum. gotta work on the whole boring thing too...thanks for the input it helps!

Keep working on it, lots of great elements, and definitely potential for a nice track.


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24-09-2006 11:33 Homepage of short-wave
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Not really diggin the kick in the intro. Break comes in very steppy, I like. Even though everything isnt loud enough. i am having major problems with my room/monitors. i cross reference between headphones but am still not getting what i want. Main break comes in like the bassline if the whole tracks volume was turned up. i think i need to make a better bounce of my tunes... Im not really one for unedited drums, but I guess you were going for the whole 2step thing. next time i write a tune i am making the drums a priority! I am liking the choppy vox throughout even though when and if you turn everything up make sure you turn the volume down on it because it will overpower the track. Good use of lead in FX, not to bad....needs some mastering and fine tuning.! Nice one thank you for tuning in! Drummer

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Hi Short-wave,
the sound is really interesting, I´ve never worked with Logic, but it sounds fucking good. logic changed my life.The kick drum seems a bit drowned in the tune thought. i gotta get some technique on making my drums kick ass... I thought its gonna be more punchy in around 1:30, but the the beat somehow blended into the bassline( which sounds a bit strange imo). I like the sound in around 3:40, the bassline is really nice but the beat is too repetitive. i feel it too I would recommend to put some attention on the kick drum. will do

Anyway the whole thing sounds good, I liked it, although it was kinda repetitive and a bit boring in the end
cheers for the first review of the day!

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NP mate, it was a pleasure Big Grin

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yeh the kick seems a bit muffled. in fact the whole mix seems a little muffled. did u use the granulizer or travelizer from reaktor in this somewhere?? tune is good, could maybe do with a hook. productions a bit strange. i remember your old stuff being quite cool, maybe u should go back to what u were using.
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
yeh the kick seems a bit muffled. in fact the whole mix seems a little muffled. I used a mastering preset that came with my mackie spike. I think it "squished" it. I also need to learn to be more patient when it comes to putting the finishing touches on tunes. I get in a hurry when I feel the end coming! did u use the granulizer or travelizer from reaktor in this somewhere?? no, I used logic and my korg. I processed things back and forth through the synth's efx, then automated the rest. tune is good, could maybe do with a hook. I tried to come up with something else...it just wasn't coming out. I knew the tune needed more variety of sounds and a HOOK...fuck i knew it...! productions a bit strange. i remember your old stuff being quite cool, maybe u should go back to what u were using. my version of cubase died... i couldn't use my new soundcard with it! so i switched to logic express. I am happy with it so far. i need a vst wrapper though and faster computer to really use it. my system gets bogged down when i use rewire. I have been having touble figuring out the exs24 that logic uses for a sampler. this whole tune was done without a sampler...kinda weird. never done that before. Thanks for the review! i will be posting more often now. i just got settled into a new place...the last few months have been an art starvation period for me!


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fuck sake,....did you make that bass at->1:07, for example,..with your Korg MS2000??,...good job on the processing Devil ,..got it nice n thick,..sound's like you made most of the sounds n effect's,..makes for a dam good listen,..loads of fresh shit all over this,....mixdown is forshure clipping here n there,..track has a good rollin vibe,...maybe slap a good ol bongo loop in there for a few bars,..can here you got bit of bongo action,..but a nice rollin loop is what i mean,...anyway this be a rippin track,..sub sounded solid and that nasty bass is pure chunk,...cheers,...p.s..... Confused just a wee question-->Do you use "Soundiver" for your Korg?,..i also have ms2000 but have never been able to find the Soundiver software for it,...anyway,..your help is much appreciated,..cheers.

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fuck sake,....did you make that bass at->1:07, for example,..with your Korg MS2000??,...good job on the processing Devil ,..got it nice n thick,Yeah, i gotta admit the main growl is at least a triple bounced six vst multi processed, layered sythesized/sample sandwich..sound's like you made most of the sounds n effect's, i pushed to make the main elements all sythesis, way more compelling for me to produce and listen to!!!!..makes for a dam good listen,..loads of fresh shit all over this,....mixdown is forshure clipping here n there,..track has a good rollin vibe,...maybe slap a good ol bongo loop in there for a few bars,i fought with this part of the track for at least a few hours.....can here you got bit of bongo action,..but a nice rollin loop is what i mean,...anyway this be a rippin track,..sub sounded solid and that nasty bass is pure chunk,thanks, i was starting to wonder if there was any bass actually come out of my speakers...!...cheers,...p.s..... Confused just a wee question-->Do you use "Soundiver" for your Korg?,no, i haven't heard of it...? do tell!..i also have ms2000 but have never been able to find the Soundiver software for it,...anyway,..your help is much appreciated,..cheers. we do need to chat about this synth. i have had it for a few years and am kinda in deep with it. but then it gets deeper every time i try to push the limits of its potencial. i will start a new post in the production section soon.


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Cheers Short-Wave,..i made a thread for the MS2000 in the hardware section,..good ol "soundiver" allow's you to load up load's of sounds,..The software should be available on the Korg site,...but last time i checked it wasn't,..its an amazing piece of software and would make the Korg a thousand times better,..just think,..would be able to load up shit load's of new sound pack's from some real good dnb sound designer's,..i don't know if Mathew Stolly(think that's how you spell it?) makes pack's for korg,..but he's made a few dandy's for the Virus,..anyway would be real nice to get soundiver for the Korg,...cheers.

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