drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » Bulls-I - Refuse of the Past Bulls-I - Refuse of the Past Author Post Bulls-I Producer Registration Date: 19-06-2006 Posts: 81 Helpfulness rating:  Please check out my new track 'Refuse of the Past', post your comments here and vote for it!!! Tried some darkstep with some exlanation from greyone (thx for that man!) Grtz __ Bulls-I 13-09-2006 21:24 Rudeone love & light Registration Date: 15-10-2005 Posts: 926 Helpfulness rating:  like the sounds you used a lot. the edits are very good too. a tight mixdown and a straight arrangement would make this a very good tune. __ MySpace 14-09-2006 11:33 Bulls-I Producer Registration Date: 19-06-2006 Posts: 81 Helpfulness rating:  Thx man but I do not fully understand what u mean with a straight arrangement? Grtz __ Bulls-I 14-09-2006 11:39 Rudeone love & light Registration Date: 15-10-2005 Posts: 926 Helpfulness rating:  i dont really feel the arrangement. could be nice better i think. the melodies are nice but could be better introduced. you can build up more tension etc... __ MySpace 14-09-2006 13:12 Greyone Master Producer Registration Date: 01-04-2005 Posts: 6,285 Helpfulness rating:  aha bulls-i massive... sinister and dark intro , introdrums could contain a little more high end but are good. vocal and flute are subleme , nice sounding. i agree with the arangement that could use some work , intro and body seem to be the allmost the same , put some effects on the introdrums (filtering with hand or lfo) , make the buildup/break after the vocal more intensive for example : vocal with flute - Bassline - silence - drop (allso make the drop some more intenssive) drop suggestion: layer the drums with different breaks , put in another bassline (a mid-high reece for example) , some variation , drumcutting , also try to manage a filterd kick on the snares that gives a stronger effect -> bass on snare: channel settings - filter (notch) - cut: between 2nd and 3rd stipe from left - res: +- first stripe from left (so you cut the mid freq's of the bass so the snare still smashes) break is good but could be earlier , around 2min. again this must be more intensive. 2nd drop must be more intensive and harder etc.. but for the rest its all fine , sound is good , eqing is decent too. cheers 14-09-2006 15:02 tryptech Tryptech Registration Date: 16-08-2006 Posts: 853 Helpfulness rating:  good work on intro, dark. good effects; drums are special and good edited, but may need some variation, the electronic sound that comes onto it is nice. Dont like the voice but maybe thats personal. The effects are great a very special tune this is the shit thats need to be made again. The flute is great. Very special. This different, noçt what everybody has made already 20 times. I like people with own style. Good job Maybe some more dynamics needed, everything is the same hight of loudness __ ANALOGUE (Tryptech) 14-09-2006 18:52 Philthy McNasty Florida DnB Masta! Registration Date: 23-07-2006 Posts: 1,088 Helpfulness rating:  I am loving the dark eerie intro. The gunshot is kind of weak though. You can tell that you are using the amen master break with glitch 2 step at the end. Change it up to get your own sound, cause that has been used a thousand times. I dig the flute sounding thing, not exactly sure what it is called though. All in all good tunage. Just change up the amen and mess around with the bassline and you got something. __ http://www.myspace.com/philthydubbish 14-09-2006 20:34 cruiza1986 Producer Registration Date: 10-09-2006 Posts: 29 Helpfulness rating:  Intro : ooo nice n dark. good tart. ha ha that ambience sample was from DOA i beleive. Nice firefight break. Not very well mixed though from the start. Bassline is a bit sudden with no real build up making a climax. then it drops out .. not so sure about that. i think thats what he meant by straight arrangement. nice vocals the random fx samples dont do it justice. theres no structure to the wya they come in. and the flutey sound isnt in tune with the bass. might want to consider that. not even in tune on a 5th or a 7th. which some darkstep tunes apply . the break overall has no real variation and the whole idea lacks a vision. yea overall a good accomplishment. its doesnt feel professional enough so i would say variate and add some propper structure to the track.. try your hand at mixing it a bit better. for now as it stands.. 35% good 65% bad just being honest.. cruiz __ "I like experimental sounds, stuff that hasn’t been done b4, something that creates originality not restores it!" 16-09-2006 22:23 Bulls-I Producer Registration Date: 19-06-2006 Posts: 81 Helpfulness rating:  Thx for all the hints people, cruiza thx too, I don't take it ^personal and appreciate you being honest! Rezpekt all! Bulls-I __ Bulls-I 17-09-2006 17:53 Lightningflash Wicked Producer Registration Date: 25-07-2005 Posts: 299 Helpfulness rating:  like the drum petten, where can i get some dark step loops? dont think that pan pipe fits. some sounds too laud make the beat sound distant some times. __ "EVERY FAILURE BRINGS WITH IT THE SEEDS OF AN EQUIVALENT ADVANTAGE." Theres more here http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Showband.asp?id=18745 12-08-2007 12:53 drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » Bulls-I - Refuse of the Past