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Digital Cause 
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Bass is the hardest part for me to get to sound right in the mix, heavy compression makes it sound like shit, turning it up to high makes it clip, but most of all it muddies up the other elements.
recently ive been pushing up the frequencies between 50-100hz, by quite a few db to give it power, and the bass is sounding good, just that it takes over other elements
any tips on eqing bass? i thought for a long time dropping the frequencies by a load at 40 hz was good because thats what mastering engineers do, but more recently since i was told the bass is not strong enough ive stopped doing that.... hmmmmm.....
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17-08-2006 18:09 |
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Digital Cause
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I used to always compress the bass heavily, but recently ive gone off it due to the advice ive got from some people, and feeling more bass out of the sub-woofer from profess. tunes, so to emulate that ive compressed my bass less, when its heavily compressed it sounds kinda dead...
do you only use one wave? you dont use two oscilators with diff waveforms?
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17-08-2006 20:55 |
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Are you mixing ur tunes with headphones, or on surround sound. Because thats the problem I was having, they were either to muddy or didnt hit hard enough. Filtering is awesome but you will still have to EQ them, you might get the sound you want that way. But I have learned if you are using headphones, those are only good to laydown your track then you need reall speakers to EQ and master.
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17-08-2006 21:30 |
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Digital Cause
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no i use speakers. hate using headphone cos my ears start hurting. which sometimes happens on speakers incidentally, is to do with f-ing painful frequencies
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17-08-2006 21:51 |
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Jeller
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Eq is very important
cut down the high frequencies on your bass
and cut down the low frequencies on your leads (everything under 200 hz can be removed)
for me this helps a lot, but off course you will need to filter it, compress it; bla bla bla
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18-08-2006 15:04 |
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18-08-2006 16:23 |
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Digital Cause
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how do you divert certain freqeuncies for processing ?
is this possible in reason? if not how do you do it in cubase, reason profered however
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18-08-2006 16:38 |
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Digital Cause
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so you have four outputs on the other side, i know that, but how does it split the frequencies? how does that offer an advantage to chaining?
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19-08-2006 22:04 |
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Originally posted by Digital Cause
so you have four outputs on the other side, i know that, but how does it split the frequencies? how does that offer an advantage to chaining? |
as it gives you the chance to have the same signal in 4 channels, obviously you can add different fx and eq-ing for each channel
try this:
-split to 3 signals. route all three into a mixer and wire the mixer to the main one again
-do a harsh cut of everything mid and high on the first using the eq (this is the bass)
try making this channel as dry as possible
-take out the lows and highs off the second. add some distortion or whatever to your tastes on this as it will be the most audible part
-take out all the low and mid on the third and maybe do some phasing, stereo enhancing to add the sparkle
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21-08-2006 09:11 |
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21-08-2006 09:52 |
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Yeah, i use a similar technique to that in Kontakt and Nuendo. Basically I get an original reese sound, using whatever particular softsynth i'm liking at the time (mainly albino, carbon in reaktor and z3ta), do the usual detune two oscillators la de da, whack a sine wave as third oscillator so that you've got something in tune with the piece you're writing and then go to town with the mod matrix, adding modulation to pwm, then add modulation to the modulation, eg.modulating an lfo with an envelope, LFO speed with keyboard scaling, etc. run it through some antares tube and EQ, taming the large peaks and bringing up some of the dips, and then export, generally leaving about 3 db headroom.
4 Layers get whacked into kontakt, one lo passed, 2 band passed (lo mid and hi mid) then one hi passed (I generally use the kontakt filters)
I eq and change the amplitude to get an even sound then add some distortion to the mids, adding some chorus to the tops.
I modulate the filters using lfos and envelopes and automate the polarity of the mods too to get some cool warping sounds, run some notch filters through the tops on mods as well
send everything to a bus and then i add some tape saturation and export again
i either repeat this process however many times with lots of different variations and effects- or i do this
get a whole bunch of copies of the riff i made on different audio tracks and add different effects and filters to each one and using volume and filter automation i fade them into each other, getting mad morphing bass sounds. do this, resample do it again, whatever ya want to do, it's about experimenting with what you got and coming up with your own little stamp on them!
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25-08-2006 12:17 |
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boot
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oh yeah, once all this is done you can use some multiband compression to really make it shine- waves c4 is decent for this, as are the sonalksis multibands
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26-08-2006 06:49 |
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good stuff boot
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