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quash quash is a male
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i've been making tunes for about a year now, just started getting into D n B. I'm not a strong believer in sampling breaks, only single hits, i like to make my tunes from scratch so as to know its all my material. otherwise i just use hits that i've collected. i've got a copy of fruityloops studio4 and cubase sx. i'm writing my snr, kik, ghosts and percussion seperately, exporting them and importing them into cubase giving me greater controll. after compressing them, adding some reverb and other effects the breaks sounds reasonably phatt but there just lacking that warmth and togetherness that top producers seem to be able to achieve. this really shows when i add bass and melody. If anyone could give me some advice i'd appreciate it. anyway, made some pretty rude choons including a (tubular bells) rmx which i will post up just as soon as i have a broadband. peace
23-03-2006 22:40
Darkside Darkside is a male
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that warmth is produced with either good equipment or lots of eqing practice. sometimes a not-so-warm drumbreak can do just as well, though. i've heard very plain drumbeats in pro tracks.
anyway the togetherness is usually achieved by getting a good sampled break in there or some rides, whatever, something to give everything a nice human swing along; so youi shouldnt have too many qualms with using others' breaks, man...especially since most if not all of the hits you have are likely already sampled from funk breaks Tongue
get the cleanest samples you can find, thats a number one thing.
also the warmth of a break may not actually be the break itself but a multiband compressor over the entire mastered song that brings it out.
but the biggest thing i gotta tell you is get over your beliefs! theres great breaks to sample out there with the tightest sounds imaginable! i always get better results when i dig, not when i hit the sample packs.
24-03-2006 03:00
J. Wells J. Wells is a male
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I used to think the same thing about my original breaks (I too make everything I can) and it turned out I was filtering/EQing/compressing them just a little too much, or in the wrong ways, etc. So I guess I'm suggesting that you try a less-is-more type approach, just to see if it might help.

For what it's worth, my breaks still aren't all that great. Frown


Edit: Also, what type of hits are you using primarily, accoustic or electronic?

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24-03-2006 05:51
motormind
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i've been making tunes for about a year now, just started getting into D n B. I'm not a strong believer in sampling breaks, only single hits peace


You take a break, chop it into little pieces.. and look, you've got all those single hits just waiting to be handled! And the best thing to try is to write all kinds of 16th notes in your favrite piano roll editor and keep the beats that sound best. Th emost important is to have a good, critical ear.
26-03-2006 14:34
Glim Glim is a male
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yeah man D's right, plenty of breaks to sample an you alwayz feel better for having used sumthing that you found and then manipulate it to become your own.....

old sould an motown viynl is a lil goldmine in itself

then theres tonns of samplepack sites on the web

happy hunting

look forward to hearin sum of ur stuff


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26-03-2006 14:43
BattleDrone BattleDrone is a male
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I too am convinced that it's better to make your own breaks from single hits, rather than picking up someone elses work and mess around with it, but I've found that one shot samples lack necesarry stuff to make a god roll. Most of the time you only find a hihat or a snare played in just one way while for a good roll you need several different hits of the same instrument.

I also have to admit that I have not yet reached the desired quality of handcrafting.

I've created a tread in Production Q&A/FL Studio/ where I would like people to post their handmade breaks to get them commented like others do with entire tunes.

So to answer your question, I think it really depends on each individual break. When I hear it, there might be a chance I can add something to it, just theoretically I think you are doing fine allready.

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