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how about a decent sequencer, cubase style? then I'll start using it |
If you want the cubase sequencer, then just use cubase 
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nah, can't stand it's odd logic, the fact you need fifty mousclicks for something really basic..r |
Not if you master all the short cut's on the keyboard,..that's an art in itself,.and once your good at it,..the shit flow's.
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20-03-2006 23:20 |
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PEAHEAD
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ive never worked on cubas or logic or protools. but ive worked on reason 2.5 n fruity 3 to 6
i dnt reali like the interface of reason. yeah u can basicly do all the same shit but the layout is shit i think it takes to long to do things in reason. mabye in fruity tho, they shud have a playlist like reason. which i foud u tend to make more variation becuase u dnt have to make new patterns all the time. u jus add hits in the playlisnt now and again. and the only way of doin this in fruity is make shit long patterns
im probley chattin shit now so ill leve it at tht and see what u lot say...
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cynik
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Originally posted by PEAHEAD
ive never worked on cubas or logic or protools. but ive worked on reason 2.5 n fruity 3 to 6
i dnt reali like the interface of reason. yeah u can basicly do all the same shit but the layout is shit i think it takes to long to do things in reason. mabye in fruity tho, they shud have a playlist like reason. which i foud u tend to make more variation becuase u dnt have to make new patterns all the time. u jus add hits in the playlisnt now and again. and the only way of doin this in fruity is make shit long patterns
im probley chattin shit now so ill leve it at tht and see what u lot say... |
yes you are... reason's interface is piss simple once you get the hang of it, which isn't much effort really. learning curve is quite fast.. it's the fact you're coming from fruity background, and reason really is a totally different concept
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Man, whoever said sytrus takes up 20% cpu must have a shit computer.
Ive been writing in fruity loops for around 4yrs now. Ive found that its structure is so much easier to handle than any other platform for writing dance music. However, including fl6, Fruity Loops is now just a vst synth that I only use for its instruments, maybe sometimes a beat. It lacks freedom. It has a 16bit output, as apposed to nuendo 2 and reason 3 having a 32 bit output. And now im running out of things to do with it.
I would recommend to every user who sticks to fruity, expand to steinberg and reason, use fruity loops as a plugin and your production will go through the roof.
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30-03-2006 08:22 |
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PEAHEAD
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any ways back to what fruity 7 should have.
i think it would be a good idea if the knobs worked like z3tas where u can use the mouse wheel to adjust them. alrite its not much of a upgrade but i think tht it would be well used. becuase i always use the 1 on z3ta to get precice settings.
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30-03-2006 09:36 |
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Muad'Dib
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You can combine CTRL key with your knob adjustments in FL to set them at extreme preciseness!
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30-03-2006 12:27 |
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Damn right Peahead, if you play around with Reason or Cubase you always wonder why FL has such bad soundquality. Especially the mixdown is kind of a disaster. 
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No, it is not! I have experiences that tell me that FL has amazing quality. The mix engine is way below Reason's but it copes with it using a few tricks.
The only set back is the headroom.
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I would suggest having a brighter color background instead of all that gray. i think it would be a nicer enviroment to work in. i'm not syaign FL should look like all of the big sequencers, but a brighter background does wonders when your trying to write something in my opinion......oh and how about a name change to please all of the homophobic americans that laugh and giggle at the word "fruity". heh 
also i would like to see db or pan values instead of % values when tweaking knobs. bigger and bolder value fonts for everything. a db readout on the main peak master. that would be more useful than trying to guess if its peaking or loading up a fruity db meter..fruity spectroman can be alot bigger with a readable db and hz Y/X graph.
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15-04-2006 19:16 |
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FL has db readout on the master (and on every fx channel) in the release 6. Check it out!
I think the gray features are great. Personally, I hate white or bright colours as they hurt my eyes. I even tend to read white text on black background, as it doesn't have a white background to hurt my eyes. Fuck looking like a real sheet/page.
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15-04-2006 19:28 |
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detox
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yeah i know about the master and fx channels. i was refering to the main monitor (u know that little window near the bpm), for quick referencing. i guess i'll be more specific next post. 
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16-04-2006 07:22 |
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djfreemc
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Originally posted by detox
I would suggest having a brighter color background instead of all that gray. |
You could try finding some skins.
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that's wrong, i recently discovered that with the scisor tool, you can cut your patterns and it automatically send the cutted part to a new sample slot which is free or not i don't remember |
Could you explain this a little more detailed? I don't really understand, but I would like to know how it works.
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16-04-2006 13:02 |
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BattleDrone
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Concerning the color sceme I would like to have skinning or atleast some settings for basic colors as I use a laptop most of the time. This thingy has a rather high resolution (which is fixed) so some smaller screen elements are almost invisible through all the low contrast greyish colors.
Also when you have several effects open and they are all almost on the same location (blood overdrive, reverb, ...) you tend to lose the overview on which knob belongs to which effect.
As mentioned before I absolutely hate the fact that you can not see the value of a knob without turning it.
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16-04-2006 14:03 |
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PEAHEAD
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Damn right Peahead, if you play around with Reason or Cubase you always wonder why FL has such bad soundquality. Especially the mixdown is kind of a disaster.
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No, it is not! I have experiences that tell me that FL has amazing quality. The mix engine is way below Reason's but it copes with it using a few tricks.
The only set back is the headroom. |
tru tru
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17-04-2006 10:17 |
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Concerning the color sceme I would like to have skinning or atleast some settings for basic colors as I use a laptop most of the time. This thingy has a rather high resolution (which is fixed) so some smaller screen elements are almost invisible through all the low contrast greyish colors.
Also when you have several effects open and they are all almost on the same location (blood overdrive, reverb, ...) you tend to lose the overview on which knob belongs to which effect.
As mentioned before I absolutely hate the fact that you can not see the value of a knob without turning it. |
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PEAHEAD
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Concerning the color sceme I would like to have skinning or atleast some settings for basic colors as I use a laptop most of the time. This thingy has a rather high resolution (which is fixed) so some smaller screen elements are almost invisible through all the low contrast greyish colors.
Also when you have several effects open and they are all almost on the same location (blood overdrive, reverb, ...) you tend to lose the overview on which knob belongs to which effect.
As mentioned before I absolutely hate the fact that you can not see the value of a knob without turning it. |
can u get skins for fl anyone know???
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can u get skins for fl anyone know??? |
There are some by standard in FL, but they suck, they just change the color of the bpm counter or something like that.
I found some on http://www.fruityloops.host.sk/skinz/skins.html. They're not too spectacular, but maybe you will like them.
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17-04-2006 20:07 |
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Muad'Dib
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As mentioned before I absolutely hate the fact that you can not see the value of a knob without turning it. |
You got me there. I hope for that too.... 
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17-04-2006 21:52 |
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As mentioned before I absolutely hate the fact that you can not see the value of a knob without turning it. |
You got me there. I hope for that too....
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What you can do is right click, copy value. Then right click again and it'll say paste value and the value. Bit long winded but it works.
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18-04-2006 02:58 |
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I think the main thing that bugs me about FL is the global snap value. Having it set to 1/4 step for drum edits in the piano roll, then having to change to bar for the Playlist, then back to 1/4 steps, LLLLoooooooonnnnnggggggg!!!.
Also I think it would be really cool if when copying a whole pattern that you could copy all of the automation data within that pattern. Also, seperate lfo's for pitching on the 3 osc would be really nice. But fruity does rock!
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
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Originally posted by BattleDrone
Damn right Peahead, if you play around with Reason or Cubase you always wonder why FL has such bad soundquality. Especially the mixdown is kind of a disaster.
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No, it is not! I have experiences that tell me that FL has amazing quality. The mix engine is way below Reason's but it copes with it using a few tricks. |
I'm not too sure about this. If you load a sample in flstudio, record it, load it as an audio clip (with reverse polarity) and play them both at the same time you hear silence. Which basically means fl does not alter the sound during mixdown or export, therefore if you get a bad mixdown from fruity its because you've done a bad mixdown!
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