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Im well up for sending some money, probably on friday cause thats when I get paid, Im not exactly rolling in it, but I can probably afford £20 or there abouts.
As for the T-shits thing, why not use a high quality version of the header on the Homepage, and instead of sending a shirt, just charge a small amout for an e-mail of the picture file, then it'd be up to whoever to get it printed, but they could get it printed on whatever they want, mugs, mouse mats, shirts etc.
14-02-2006 13:34
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I honestly dont understand how u calculated the amount of money u need but isnt 1800 euro a bit much and maybe misscalculated? Huh

why do u wanna buy the server yourself and even buy licences for the hosting software ??

Renting a dedicated server is much cheaper and usualy backups are included in the service package or cost a few euro's more

eg: http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver.html

regarding the hosting software , there are even free opensource alternatives that are decent enough to use


Price discussion is in this thread: can't connect to the forum

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quote:
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I honestly dont understand how u calculated the amount of money u need but isnt 1800 euro a bit much and maybe misscalculated? Huh

Servers don't come cheap Frown

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why do u wanna buy the server yourself and even buy licences for the hosting software ??

It's cheaper in the long run...

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Originally posted by zzero
Renting a dedicated server is much cheaper and usualy backups are included in the service package or cost a few euro's more

eg: http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver.html

regarding the hosting software , there are even free opensource alternatives that are decent enough to use

Those seem very cheap indeed. But as hosting goes: mostly the cheap hostings are simply crap.

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14-02-2006 14:03 Homepage of Surya
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Well i've donated a hopeless amount of 10 euro's but i'm strapped for cash like everyone else Mad

gonna donate some more next week, hope those interested pitch in an give a little.....

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14-02-2006 15:01
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eg: http://www.hetzner.de/rootserver.html

regarding the hosting software , there are even free opensource alternatives that are decent enough to use

Those seem very cheap indeed. But as hosting goes: mostly the cheap hostings are simply crap.


err they are reliable, the new breakz server is located there

there are lots of other dedicated hosting companies that work around the same price range, some maybe a bit more expensive

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14-02-2006 15:08
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done €15. its not much but hope it helps, even if its just a bit.
14-02-2006 15:12
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err they are reliable, the new breakz server is located there

Could be, I don't know them. But there's a big difference between breakz and drumnbass.be: we host tracks that generate huge amounts of traffic and serverload...

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14-02-2006 15:26 Homepage of Surya
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Indeed the forum only takes up 7% of the bandwidth on dnbbe. Track downloads take 65% and sample pack downloads 25%.

When the site just started we were on budget bandwidth, it didn't make much difference for the forum (maybe like 1 second more loading time) but the track downloads were very slow.

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14-02-2006 18:33 Homepage of thechronic
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If you give me till next month i will donate £20 - £30 deffinetly

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It could be I'm telling a huge bunch of bullshit right now, not sure cause I don't understand allot about servers ...

But you have a huge amount of members on this site ... but about 90 percent of these members never visits the site any more ... they use allot of space on this site don't they ? ...

Tunes that really suck ass and are downrated could be deleted too huh ? ...

I'm just saying, if you could delete all the bullshit on this site, allot of space would be free again ... or am I wrong ?

And also ... it wouldn't be a problem for ME, to start dnb.be all over again ... A fresh new start on a much cheaper server maybe ? ...

Don't get me wrong here this is just my opinion, I know certain people will disagree with me here, but it's just an idea ...

So if it would be up to me, I would exterminate and destroy all unneeded bullshit on this site and blow in new life ... Drummer

PDJ Big Grin

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14-02-2006 19:21
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But you have a huge amount of members on this site ... but about 90 percent of these members never visits the site any more ... they use allot of space on this site don't they ? ...

No, users take up very little space in the database. A few K's at most.

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Tunes that really suck ass and are downrated could be deleted too huh ? ...

It's not the space tunes take that is the problem, but the serverload and bandwith they create when being downloaded. Old tracks don't get downloaded a lot, so thats not a problem. It's the new tracks that are the problem. But then again: that's what this site is about!

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And also ... it wouldn't be a problem for ME, to start dnb.be all over again ... A fresh new start on a much cheaper server maybe ? ...

If you want to do it like it's done here
- Free demo hosting
- Fast browsing
- Fast downloading
then there's no cheap solution. That's the sad truth. Fast servers and fast connections cost money.

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14-02-2006 19:32 Homepage of Surya
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I think the main problems are:
- old server hardware that needs to be replaced costing quite a buck or 2.
- a lot of tune downloads going on.

You have a point on deleting old and bad rated tunes, but these tunes don't cause a lot of trouble because they don't get downloaded. They might take up 10GB of space on a server which is not that much. Even on a server this size of discspace is affordable nowadays.

I also think that some old forum treads are so full of informaition that it would be a great idea to make a real manual out of them and give all the contributors credit, but again, this won't solve the actual problems.

OK, Surya beat me on replying on this one Pleased

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14-02-2006 19:33 Homepage of BattleDrone
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if i win some money playing poker online, I'll let you have some of it.

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14-02-2006 21:34
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Yeah that's a common misconception, it's not the occupied space that costs money but the transfer. The space is cheap, just buy a new 160GB hard disk for 80€, put it in the server and you have room for like 20000 extra tracks and ten million forum posts.

BTW the previous server was not full at all, it still had around 40% disk space available. It was just becoming very unstable and it was just a matter of time before it would break down entirely.

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14-02-2006 23:55 Homepage of thechronic
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one 30€ donation coming up, not much, but I'm still school going and I couldn't stand the thought of this site going down.

PS: I'll go the bank tomorrow Wink

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When I get some money I will give you some, not a lot but a bit!!!

P.s. Why not build a 2nd rig and have ir running as a server and stick in a 100GB HDD, thats what I do. Infact I have a server running of a bearbones system lol.



p.s. That is 1000 euro a year isn't it?

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15-02-2006 15:34
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quote:
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When I get some money I will give you some, not a lot but a bit!!!

P.s. Why not build a 2nd rig and have ir running as a server and stick in a 100GB HDD, thats what I do. Infact I have a server running of a bearbones system lol.

p.s. That is 1000 euro a year isn't it?

Space was not the problem, the old server was developing hardware failures.
Putting up a server cluster is not necessary in the near future Wink Maybe if we get like 20000 members Big Grin

The 1000 euro we are gathering now is a one time investment, just to buy the new server. The hosting costs will as usual be paid by me, but they will be lower which is a very good thing since I was paying 1800 euro a year for the hosting. It's a bit steep just to keep my hobby site running you know.

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i'll donate 10€, will go to the bank tomorrow Smile

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15-02-2006 16:30 Homepage of Friscko
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So it's not that simple huh ...

pretty fucked up, money is what makes the world go around ...

I'll be honoust with you, I will not donate money ... Not cause I wanna be a jackass but just cause I don't have the urge of giving some ... and I'm saving for other things ...

It would be different if I knew evereyone better though ...

Hope you get this site tiptop fresh again ...

PS. Don't you think it's strange that a famous site like this doesn't have any sponsors??? With a few sponsors the money issue would be no prob !

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15-02-2006 17:50
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quote:
Originally posted by PassDa J.
So it's not that simple huh ...

pretty fucked up, money is what makes the world go around ...

I'll be honoust with you, I will not donate money ... Not cause I wanna be a jackass but just cause I don't have the urge of giving some ... and I'm saving for other things ...

It would be different if I knew evereyone better though ...

Hope you get this site tiptop fresh again ...

PS. Don't you think it's strange that a famous site like this doesn't have any sponsors??? With a few sponsors the money issue would be no prob !


Why don't you bring some sponsors then?!

So you say you can't give money until you know us, huh? I wish thechronic made that - made free access for only the people he knew... then here would be at top 3 members.

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