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Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog
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Please check out my new track 'Lung-Tadie (Chamois-Mache mix)' and post your comments here!!!
This is a tune which Ive spent quite a while on. Its something I started a long time ago, but never got round to carrying on with till recently. Ive tried to do something a little different with this one, as always, you'll either love it or hate it.
Its not really finished yet so any suggestions would be really helpful. This was inspired by a rusty engine block I saw lying in the street filled with water and leaves.
As always, comments are more than welcome, also, let me know how it sounds at your end. Cheers.
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24-01-2006 21:19 |
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camo 
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Hi mate!
*listening*
intro:like the fx, dont really like the synth......bit too loud...maybe a bit reeverb would be nice.....
0:32: here we go!!!!! nice work on the drums! and wicked synth work! sometimes bit messy, but thats ok.
ui....that keeps on rocking that way......1:47: ok,whats coming next? *suspense*
alright....puh...nice drums mate! some of the synths are bit too loud i think.
there could be more structure in the whole tune, but i think im just bit too stupid too see through it
lol
overall: definitly not my style. but very well produced.
keep up the good work!
cheers
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24-01-2006 22:27 |
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Surora23
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intro cool...
synth sounds a bit digital for my tastes...but all good...
intro drums...a bit squarepusher ish...well i shoudlnt say a bit...
um...this is totally not my style of stufflol.. so i had to stop listening (just my tasttes) ill leave this one for those who know this type way better than i...
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24-01-2006 22:53 |
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love the eerie intro maybe extend that a bit keep the listener in suspense for just that bit longer. Not 100% about the bass - it sounds quite gritty but a little thin - needs to be a bit fatter and have more presence at the low end I think.
ahh it sounds a lot better now the drums have dropped but seems quiter than before?
I really like the crazy stabbing synth sounds in the main part of the track - did you use oscillator sync when creating those? they sound very 'synced' 
your choice of ambience & fx in the background and during the breakdowns is also good.
I like this a lot, very solid mix, lots of stuff going on but everything has its place & fits well. it sounds pretty sweet at my end squire!
cheers for the ear candy!
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25-01-2006 00:08 |
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Yeah your definately right about the bass. I think thats pretty much the only part left from when I started this a long time ago. Also I think your right about the voluime drop. I havent done any mastering on this yet (hence the loud bass in places) so that'll be something to sort out in the mix. I think the stabbing bits you mean are actually a sample I made of a bass tone, I sampled it so that I could pull it around a lot more. I didnt sync it or anything, its just easier to get chopped up stuff when your working with a sample rather than a synth. Its funny that people have picked up on it sounding digital. Most of the sounds are from a sample of some type which Ive just played with a lot. Some of the synths are grain tables using wavs from gong samples, nearly all the drums are either chopped up/fucked with loops. And if you listen carefully you might hear some samples from a "Speak & Spell" too. I also sampled the powerlines in a station from when a train comes through. I think its quite cool to take some natural sounds and to change the way people percieve them, to confuse the line between "real" and digital.
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25-01-2006 00:29 |
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Hot-dog,..i get all excited n shit when i see a new Techdiff track,.. 
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-->2:57,..now that's some crazy soundin shit,..heavy strainin vocal,..sounds like he's pinchin one->"lol"...shits sounds awsome man.....@>4:33-->lovin this "wip!" sound you got goin,.maybe exzagerate this more....That's crazy what you got inspired by man!...hope you took a pitchure of the old rusty engine block,..could use it as a cover for single..
,...shit id love to see it now too.....this track makes it seem like one hell of a rusty old engine block,...id make more outa 3:06 to 3:27 when the vocaal's end,..this part sound's like it could go longer with more of a buildup,..Bass at intro sound's pretty lame but when the shit drop's it sound's ten times better,..so im guessin bass at intro was done like that on pupose,...so maybe make more interesting with a longer intro and if you still want that raw bass with no filter's ect,..maybe fad it in and out with some huge delay's or something,..fuck i suck!...i don't know what to say,..tune sounded tight on my end...bass pop's out a bit-> 2:27 for example,..but i don't trust my speaker's so neither should you....anyway i tried to be helpfull with this track,..in the past ive just been stumped n did the old "Phat track man.
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....anyway hope this was helpfull,...oh and phat track by the way...->
...lol....track blew me away as all your track's do...cheers Techdiff!!
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25-01-2006 05:06 |
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Rudeone
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pad panning doesnt sound to good. that saw could need modulation sounds pretty 'cheap'. nice drumming and fx.
haha cool track. good production and pure weirdness
nice
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25-01-2006 10:56 |
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Originally posted by Surora23
jesus christ why is everyone so touchy on here..im sorry i jsut cant stand to lsiten to a bunch of beats and noise.. its not my taste..and to be hoenst if you want me to giv ea full review its going to be nothing BUT NEGATIVE because its totally not waht im into.. its as anoying to me as country music... now if you want me to listen to the whole damn thing and give you my honest to god opinoin...fine..but otherwise shut up... |
Thats why I said at the top "you'll either love it or hate it". I can fully appreciate that its not gonna be to everyones tastes, but I still consider it to be slightly OTT to suggest that if you where to leave a review Itd be nothing but negative. It'd have to be the worlds shittest track to acheive that surely. Even if its not something your into you can still appreciate whether its mixed well or not, whether it achieves what it set out to do etc. I dont think taste should come into it at all. I expect that I find standard DnB tracks as annoying as you find my stuff. But I still listen to them ALL THE WAY THROUGH, and I still try to leave review which isnt just negative, I just say at the end "this isnt my thing" but still try to leave a helpful review.
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now if you want me to listen to the whole damn thing and give you my honest to god opinoin...fine..but otherwise shut up.. |
That exactly what I want, the only reason I posted a reply was because I found it fairly pointless to leave a review saying "its not my kinda thing, turned it off halway through etc" Seems like a waste of both yours and my time. I would much prefer that you left a review, even if it was somehow only negative, its alright, Ive heard much worse. It normally comes from people who dont want there precious DnB changed. If its 180 bpm and not exactly how it should be, then to them its almost sacraligeous. (normally the same people who play DnB sets consisting of nothing but tunes circa 1997, the same people who think there hasnt been a decent DnB track since) As I said, if your gonna leave a slating review, fine, Ive heard worse trust. I kinda enjoy it in a strange kinda way, you try playing a gabba set to a room pull of breaks only people and you'll see what I mean. I do however find it far more insulting to say "I stopped listening halfway through" as though it almost painful to listen to, offencive even. Somewhat ironic from someone who has "aggressive melodic disorder" (spelt wrongly) written under their name, as I'd say thats almost exactly what this track is.
Dont get me wrong on this. Im not in the least bit pissed off. I enjoy a good argument (especially with people who end post with "otherwise shut up!" after accusing others of being touchy!!), and its also an opportunity to try to understand why so many people refuse to hear something a little different from what they know, the kinda people who when they hear a snare rush they imediately think of Squarepusher, completely disregarding all the other producers who do the same kinda thing. its pig ignorance in my opinion.
Either way, thanks for the review, when I do more to this track I'll be sure to use all the helpful ideas you suggested. (insert sarcastic smiley)
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by TechDiff: 25-01-2006 12:29.
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25-01-2006 12:26 |
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Superisk
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Feeling the intro, eery and heavy, the synth flicks on/off a bit but if thats what your going for sound
Yes! The drum programming is sick, you could call it squarepusher sounding but its better described as forward thinking Breakcore IMO. its all about the editing, the synth is a bit loud but it wouldn't have the same affect if it was turned down.....
Very original, keep it up man 
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25-01-2006 16:02 |
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Nice, Cheers dude. I think that synth has just got a little to much low end in it so its coming through too much, and also its pushing the compression about aswell. Thas something I'm gonna sort out in the proper mixdown. Quite funny though, played this one in a set on Monday, sounded fucking good apart from that bass making the PA fart away. I got some pretty evil looks from the sound guy at the end, Ive already blown one of the monitors there before. Gotta be more careful!
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25-01-2006 18:20 |
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Surora23
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jesus christ why is everyone so touchy on here..im sorry i jsut cant stand to lsiten to a bunch of beats and noise.. its not my taste..and to be hoenst if you want me to giv ea full review its going to be nothing BUT NEGATIVE because its totally not waht im into.. its as anoying to me as country music... now if you want me to listen to the whole damn thing and give you my honest to god opinoin...fine..but otherwise shut up... |
Thats why I said at the top "you'll either love it or hate it". I can fully appreciate that its not gonna be to everyones tastes, but I still consider it to be slightly OTT to suggest that if you where to leave a review Itd be nothing but negative. It'd have to be the worlds shittest track to acheive that surely. Even if its not something your into you can still appreciate whether its mixed well or not, whether it achieves what it set out to do etc. I dont think taste should come into it at all. I expect that I find standard DnB tracks as annoying as you find my stuff. But I still listen to them ALL THE WAY THROUGH, and I still try to leave review which isnt just negative, I just say at the end "this isnt my thing" but still try to leave a helpful review.
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now if you want me to listen to the whole damn thing and give you my honest to god opinoin...fine..but otherwise shut up.. |
That exactly what I want, the only reason I posted a reply was because I found it fairly pointless to leave a review saying "its not my kinda thing, turned it off halway through etc" Seems like a waste of both yours and my time. I would much prefer that you left a review, even if it was somehow only negative, its alright, Ive heard much worse. It normally comes from people who dont want there precious DnB changed. If its 180 bpm and not exactly how it should be, then to them its almost sacraligeous. (normally the same people who play DnB sets consisting of nothing but tunes circa 1997, the same people who think there hasnt been a decent DnB track since) As I said, if your gonna leave a slating review, fine, Ive heard worse trust. I kinda enjoy it in a strange kinda way, you try playing a gabba set to a room pull of breaks only people and you'll see what I mean. I do however find it far more insulting to say "I stopped listening halfway through" as though it almost painful to listen to, offencive even. Somewhat ironic from someone who has "aggressive melodic disorder" (spelt wrongly) written under their name, as I'd say thats almost exactly what this track is.
Dont get me wrong on this. Im not in the least bit pissed off. I enjoy a good argument (especially with people who end post with "otherwise shut up!" after accusing others of being touchy!!), and its also an opportunity to try to understand why so many people refuse to hear something a little different from what they know, the kinda people who when they hear a snare rush they imediately think of Squarepusher, completely disregarding all the other producers who do the same kinda thing. its pig ignorance in my opinion.
Either way, thanks for the review, when I do more to this track I'll be sure to use all the helpful ideas you suggested. (insert sarcastic smiley) |
yo if that shits spelled wrong #1 thats chronics bad lol...and im pretty sure its spelled right... i dunno wahtever.. anwyay...
but youre right...i do only think of squarepusher... imo he was the only one to make that shit sound good... it is diff from what i know but i never said it was bad...i specifically noted bro that i wasnt going to review cause i dont know the music... im not gonna sit here and give you afucked up bullshit review when i DONT know what im talking about... that was the point i was trying to make... im not going to review this.. i dont know the music, i dont know the style...so to be honest i dont know if its good or bad.. so there for anything that i would say that pretains to an actual review would be completel "pig ignorance" and bullshit... if you know some cats that know this shit proper, then get them to review, but i honestly cant listne to this stuff... i can only bare a couple square[usher tunes (a couple i mind you) and to be honest a lot of all this shit sounds the same (now of course you can say the same for everything else) but i just dont know the stuff well enough to tell any different...
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25-01-2006 19:31 |
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I suppose, if you honestly feel uncomfortable enough with the genre that you genuinly cant leave a review, then fair enough.
I guess what got me started was the "had to stop listening" that got me going. I guess that the problem with the net, some times its the tone of voice that people use that half determines the meaning of the comment, but with the net you cant portray the "between the lines" conotations, its too easy to misread/mis-understand stuff when your reading.
But I guess you cant please all the people all the time! If the people who are into this kinda thing hate it, then I should start worrying!
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25-01-2006 19:41 |
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Holy shit dudes, what a funny discussion
Allright to the tune now ...
Like the synth + digital noises in the intro ... that bass comin in has a "cheap" quality to it wich I don't like so much ...
I must say the 1st drop isn't that special ... fading in is not my shit ... allthough I like the sound of the bass changing when it drops ...
Again very wel chopped and sliced ... I like those other chopped sounds inthere ... it has a "rubber johnny influence" to my opinion
I recognize some thing inthere that I heard in that video
aren't I right?
Love this man, allthough I think those sounds should come foreward more ...
1:46 Love this freaky part here, and the silent amen in the back is cool, again those freaky sounds coming in ... sounds pretty nice with those cool basses inthere, you are great when it comes to fitting sounds together ... just love the sphere ...
3:00 Again a nice part, cool bassline in the back ... those pianosounds are simple and nice, and the timestretching of that vocal is cheff, the vocal is cool too ... You always use 1 vocal, 1 time in a song don't you???
Wow, those laser-sounds are awesome, I really see that rubber johnny character again banging his face against the lens and shooting lasers out his ass
Hahaha, sorry I can't help it but you took some ideas of him didn't ya? Maybe it's you who's locking him up in the basement 
Outro isn't so special but I do like the sound of it, sounds "finished"
Well like I said, I like that rubber johnny touch inthere and sure would love to hear another song like this but still a lil' more aggressive, with some evil shit inthere ...
Nice stuff Tech ... keep 'm comin'
PS. I'm listening allot to your songs lately cause I want to produce a tune with this kinda style too, just need more info of the sample-use ... Laterzzz PDJ
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Hi Tech
As usual some thing worthy of keeping on my desktop.
Retroduction was something tuff to follow but this is a less manic pace but good for those less manic moments. I have noticed the bass drum has got a little more prominent But I am still, I think hearing the same percussion sounds as before. I think what you do with them is great but I’m sure you could find some great new drum sounds to add to your pallet. As you may know, I like strong bass sounds and the opening sound is just that, but its full power is only brief. Thanks for your help on my aborted track.
I hope your efforts are rewarded.
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27-01-2006 11:23 |
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aight review
the intro does indeed remind me of the rubber johnny movie (passda j said it was kinda alike this mornin')
drops of real nice (7th time listenin' now é first i didn't really like it but now that i'm drunk an shit it's al allright
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nice drumeditz m8 still fink u one of the better choperz on dnb.be
an for the synths it's the same thing m8 (wich vst's did u use anyway???)
oooow 02:16 ->> this is when i'm really feelin u man
dope shit goin on all around (like the chaos is everywhere but it's still kinda in a certain structure )
dunno if u consider ur style breakcore but for me it's top-notch breakcore
nice work an keep on beeing insane m8 i love it
10/10 for as far as i'm concerned about ratingz
keep at it man; u rock
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27-01-2006 12:47 |
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Cool, cheers everyone. This one isnt quite finished, so I though I'd see what everyone thought before I commited myself to finishing it completely. I think most of you have siad that the bass in the intro is weak, and I guess I agree with you, I do like the tone, but it could definately use more balls.
The initial idea with this one was to try and demonstarte3 different angles of the same thing, like the idea of different universes existing in the same place but un aware of each other. The bit after the first drop where it kinda drops down a notch is intended to be these 3 realities all in the same space and listener is given bits and bobs of all these things. The idea was that as the tune progressed the different aspects become clearer and more seperate, but not nessesarily inviting, the drop after the vocals is supposed to be a really nasty standpoint. I'm supprised that no-one took any offence to blasts of distorted white noise, ah well.
Im a bit confused by the "rubber Johnny" comments. I guess this has a similar sort of vibe, but its certainly not something I set out to do, and there definately arent any samples from it. But I guess it does have that sort of mish mash of sounds that some Aphex stuff has. Although all the drums in that track "AFX 247 v7" are synth and at some moments very simple. In this track only some of the drums are synth, but most are sampled, But maybe its these that your picking up on. (Has anyone found the Speak & Spell samples yet?) But its never a bad thing being compared to Aphex!
Cheers for all the feedback, definately got some things to going on.
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27-01-2006 13:38 |
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Im a bit confused by the "rubber Johnny" comments. I guess this has a similar sort of vibe, but its certainly not something I set out to do, and there definately arent any samples from it |
well it's kinda alike xept for the fact ur drumz are way better
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27-01-2006 13:39 |
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It's been said a lot but here it is again
- nice intro...
really like those drums, every track of yours has some pretty mad drum loops in it! That bass line at the beggining does give it a kind of tech feeling. (not tech as is genre, although this is also tru. but tech as in computerised) could probably do with a LITTLE bit of a vocoder/chorus. no drums through this bass (playing low), good the drop stands out a lot because of those trademark drums filtering in so quick. The layering of that tech bass and another kinda hi saw is very good to get the track started, gives it instant variation the bass variation is v-good. the bass sound is not really how i would expect on a track of yours!
very well made track!!!! what did you use to make it??? out of curiosity...like that jungle sample you got in there aswell, cant really explain which one. lol those snares you got going there are mad! the break @ 1:48 sounds very deep, then those drums filtering in ... 
yes !!! well done. classic tech diff. reeces after this break are heavy just right with some bad filter on them, cant really comment on overall mastering, i'm at college listening on some sony in-ear headphones, maybe the sound levels are a bit loud in some parts. It sounds to me that after the vocal sample @ 3:23 the track is a bit distorted, now i dont know if that is supposed to be like that or it's my headphones. the drums after this drop go on a sick tip tho!! not really much on this track that i can help with but i tried!
soundin good m8 hopeing for more soon even tho this is not my style at all it's like a piece of artwork
, the more I listen to the track, the more I like and notice the depth of the track. Definately given me some inspiration for my tracks!!!
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