drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » greyone - La Cosa Nostra greyone - La Cosa Nostra Author Post Greyone Master Producer Registration Date: 01-04-2005 Posts: 6,285 Helpfulness rating:  Please check out my new track 'La Cosa Nostra' and post your comments here!!! La Cosa Nostra, literally translated into English, means "this thing of ours." It is a nationwide alliance of criminals, linked through both familial and conspiratorial ties that is dedicated to pursuing crime and protecting its members. It is also known as the Mafia... This track has been deleted on the producer's request 27-11-2005 21:52 PassDa J. Sliced Slasher Registration Date: 16-05-2005 Posts: 481 Helpfulness rating:  Nice shit Greyone, this song has a nice overall sphere, cause all the samples sound so right, all fit together. Drums are bouncing very well, keeping a constant movement. Just the length off the tune bothers me a bit. There isn't so much change in the song, for me that is. Keep goin' Grey1, you'll get there, I see you getting better __ 27-11-2005 22:14 anf0 D CXNT Registration Date: 31-03-2005 Posts: 1,196 Helpfulness rating:  is dat dere gabba kicks n dere? the intro sounds are cool and nice filtering on the beats in the intro. intro is abit short though i think. bass is cool and the synth that comes in is cooler. should probably put a heavy sub behind the reece instead of the bass ur using atm. gets phatty around the 2.50 mark. some mad low end action there, compared to the first 2 mins. the riff and the synth are cool, nice effects on the reece synth also. the vocals are cool man. nice break. the build is cool, the drop is alright although it seems it has no mad low end action, the bass u have sounds more like bass stabs. but still this is a mad mental tune with some mental ideas and riffs. keep working it man, cool ideas n shit right here, just need to polish them up abit. peace __ [R] CentaSpike :: Tracks 28-11-2005 00:42 equipped tired Registration Date: 20-05-2005 Posts: 3,818 Helpfulness rating:  What a treat,.. ,...That sound at>00:16 is pure grit,.....Nice timely filter>>00:49 ,....Dam,..this shit sound's nice,..god dam>>>1:20 ,....nice heafty flang,....Vocal's are great!!,...,...this has a solid drivin sound/feel all the way through man,...Heavey duty >>>4:14,..solid combination of sound's,..Synth's are full of chunck,...Well done man,..great funkin tune... __ Space 28-11-2005 00:43 Surora23 Agressive Melodic Disorder Registration Date: 05-07-2004 Posts: 2,127 Helpfulness rating:  Dont take this the wrong way, but im gonna take the time to review this cause i honestly feel you dont have a clue what youre talking about so i want to see what everyones raving aboutin thsi thread... Intro sounds are alright... not bad...but not spactacular... drums, are jsut a tad thin.. no real punch or anything to em... and theyre a bit.. i dunnoo.. jsut clangy.. they remind me of tappin my pencil on a metal table or somethign.. cheap and chinsy... You went way over board with the flange... #1 you used too much #2 there is no melody with that bassline, its quite odd, and even if this was a hardware track this would sound so completely random... it doesnt work imo.. #3 with the combination of both... not working out imo... The vocals are cool i guess... but who wants write song about a maffia or soemthing in spanish?? I wasnt really sure how to fallow this track... the structure is ok i guess.. basic measures and waht not... Also my biggest pet peave is a distorted kick in drums.. this isnt break core, and if thats what you were going for then make a break core track...dont mix the both... its wuite annoying imo... Look this song was just a bunch of noise to me.... 4/10 __ Rinse it OUT!!!! 28-11-2005 02:42 TechDiff Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog Registration Date: 14-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  Hey man, been looking forwards to hearing this since the thread you started. Nice atmosphere in the intro, drums are a little messy in places, but cool. Drops in nicely. I like the bass tones but the drums do sound a little thin, i reakon layering the the kick and snare would help out. I do like the snare sound but it just needs a little more thwack to it. Good old distrorted 909 kick in there too. You should layer a really punchy drum kick underneith it to give it more punch. I think a little more hi hat energy would help increase the feel of speed. At the moment you can tell that the track is fast but it doesnt seem to actually carry the speed very well. At 2:20 youve brought in a harmony to the bass line. Its a nice idea, but one of the notes sounds quite major. Its the forth note, it lands on the 5th beat. I think if you took it down a semi tone it'd sound much better. You should also be careful about how much you use the 909 kicks. The section at 2:50 doesnt really work all that well. Its fine aprt from the sort of triplet thing at the end which just adds an awkward limp to the track. I really like the vocals leading up to 4:15. Builds up the tension really nicely, although it sounds like hes calling the guy a Paki, yo0u should probably take that out as it could offend a few people. I think there is some nice synth work in the tune and some cool atmoshere as well. But the drums kinda let it down in my opinion. They seem to slow everything else down which is a shame. I think this tune would sound a million times better with a more driving beat. You should maybe try programing beats over a 4 bar section as it will force you to think about how one bar leads to the next and the whole tune will carry a lot more momentum. I also think you should be a bit more spareing with the 909 kicks, they dont really have any impact. Everything else I really like. There synth lines are cool and the atmospheric elements are good too. I also like the vocal stuff going on, where did you get the samples from, some of it sounds like GTA but I dont think it is. I think sort those drums out and your on to a good'n. PS, I think it sounds fairly DnB to be, the 909 is the only thing that doesnt. If you want it to be more Breakcore/Gabba core, you need to have much crazier drums and really pull the tune about more. 28-11-2005 13:02 Greyone Master Producer Registration Date: 01-04-2005 Posts: 6,285 Helpfulness rating:  allrite i'll tell you what i've done : drums were given a little distortion (fruity blood overdrive) thats why i fucked it up... 909's , i'm adicted to them , and no i dont want to make gabba / breakcore / idm , and i dont wanna make standart 180bpm dnb , i wanna have my own style. "...and i call you my little girl papi" , "papi" as the"don" the boss. about the 909's again , i'll still work with them , as for the tempo too , i'll experiment some furter to make it the way i like. drums , i don't know what you mean technically different. BPM , i diddnt wanna make this one supperfast you know just a bit faster than normal. maybe i should added a sub , but i thought the basshits would stand. thanx for the honest comments. 28-11-2005 14:21 TechDiff Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog Registration Date: 14-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  No thats cool. The drums sound good, but I just think that they could do with a little more punch. I think you should keep the ones youve got already, and just layer a different snare ank kick without the distortion. They wouldnt have to be very loud just to have a little more punch. As for the BPM i think your right. This one doesnt need to be any faster, but I do feel that the drums sometimes seem to lag behind a bit, they bring the perseption of speed down. You can make something sound much faster (or slower) than it is with the drums. In this case I think that the drums could do with tidying up a little, and in some cases, shortening the tail of the hits, which will make them seem to be going faster. Ah "Papi" wasnt that clear, sounds really cool how as the argument escalates, so does the tune. Works very well. Its far enough that you want it to be in a mid ground, but I think the DnB elements seem to ride over the Gabba breakcore elements, if the 909 had a bit more presence and more impact I think this would help, a few manic drum fills too maybe. Dont get me wrong, I do really like this track. Its definately got its own vibe. PS Its Technical Difficulties. It comes from the first few live sets I did. The first one my PC died after 10 minutes. The second one I had to install a new soundcard after my soundcheck because that gave up. I decided to buy a Laptop. And the third and fourth I wrecked the P.A. monitors halfway through my set. There was a big bass swoop, the stage rattled a bit, the moniters farted, distorted, made a big snapping noise, and then they where silent. I did the same thing to the same venues PA twice. Im now having trouble getting gigs tjhere......... 28-11-2005 14:58 darksid3 Tourist Registration Date: 22-11-2005 Posts: 14 Helpfulness rating:  yuu grey, thanks to you i found this site, and thanks to your fine tunes i'll coming to this shit more often, . keep up the good work. peace out __ don't hold the beat back... 28-11-2005 15:04 Surora23 Agressive Melodic Disorder Registration Date: 05-07-2004 Posts: 2,127 Helpfulness rating:  i couldnt agree less @techdiff I think that this honestly sounds like a track that wouldve been made in like 99.. even then this is a complete utter mess...why even be nice about this... Ok...whehter you like 909s or not is not the issue... way too much distortion on the kick...and style of your own?? sorry, but usual suspects has been doing this for years, and theyve been doing it proper... im sorry i just dont see any quality in this at all... but apparently i must have high standards... its a shame all these cats are setting the bar so low for progression... __ Rinse it OUT!!!! 28-11-2005 15:46 Greyone Master Producer Registration Date: 01-04-2005 Posts: 6,285 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by TechDiff PS Its Technical Difficulties. It comes from the first few live sets I did. The first one my PC died after 10 minutes. The second one I had to install a new soundcard after my soundcheck because that gave up. I decided to buy a Laptop. And the third and fourth I wrecked the P.A. monitors halfway through my set. There was a big bass swoop, the stage rattled a bit, the moniters farted, distorted, made a big snapping noise, and then they where silent. I did the same thing to the same venues PA twice. Im now having trouble getting gigs tjhere......... wow thats bad , thanx again for clearing things up 28-11-2005 15:59 TechDiff Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog Registration Date: 14-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by Surora23 i couldnt agree less @techdiff I think that this honestly sounds like a track that wouldve been made in like 99.. even then this is a complete utter mess...why even be nice about this... Well youre entitled to your own opinion, as much as I am to mine. Im nice about it because I like the track and I think it could be really good with a few adjustments. Im not in for all that slating something because its not to your taste. I think you need to brorden your horizons a bit. If you think this is messy you really havent heard all that much electronic music. quote: im sorry i just dont see any quality in this at all... but apparently i must have high standards... Its not that you have high standards, just a closed mind, and a un-justified sence of one-upmanship. The reason progression is thwarted is that closed minded individuals regard anything that isnt exactly to there taste as "just a munch of noise" or some similar sweeping statement. I think Greyone was trying something new to him, and as with anything in life, practice makes perfect. It is not practical or helpful to simply put down sombodys attempts at trying something different. Sure the track isnt perfect, I think it is really good, but not perfect, but its far more likely to get there if people offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM rather then simply putting it down for the sake of it not being to your taste. Then to go and argue that somebody elses opinions are wrong is just plain arrogance. If I like the track then that is up to me. I do not expect somebody to try and tell me otherwise. I apologise to Greyone for taking up space in this thread. 28-11-2005 16:22 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  fuck me: 16 megabytes! encoded in 320 kbps you psycho 192 or even 160 is pretty enough In My Humble Opinion it will take a whole half an hour to download.. since Ive been narrow-banded I really wanna hear it oh well be back with a review after __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 28-11-2005 17:58 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  well I must say I'm not impressed after the fuss you rose about this one. maybe my expectations were high nice intro but the too loud beats in caught my attention (not in a good way) first the vocals are a bit bare. try to put a tiny bit of well chosen distortion on them followed by a gated reverb (dont know if thats the right term, but a reverb which has a harsh decay cut off) there doesn't seem to be a main theme in here. youve got a buildup and it drops well, drives through but doesnt grab attention well IMO. whenever I hear a flanged instrument it somehow stays in the background. you have put a flanger on the lead synth and it's on all the time which is a mistake IMHO and just weakens it. I would have made a strong synth as a lead here, and if I feel like it, apply the flange effect only at some spots vocal part prior to the 4:15 drop is too long. it is followed by a very short buildup, you can get more tension by building up as the conversation follows, then drop the beats and bass beats are very nice programmed but sound a bit tinny, perhaps cut a bit of the high frequencies with the EQ. distorted bd's are not an original idea. noisia compile basslines using them, they pitch it down tho and process them to hell. main issue here could be as I mentioned the absence of a hook, a main theme to grab attention. nice edits and atmos you got but they don't just do justice __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 29-11-2005 00:15 Surora23 Agressive Melodic Disorder Registration Date: 05-07-2004 Posts: 2,127 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by cynik well I must say I'm not impressed after the fuss you rose about this one. maybe my expectations were high nice intro but the too loud beats in caught my attention (not in a good way) first the vocals are a bit bare. try to put a tiny bit of well chosen distortion on them followed by a gated reverb (dont know if thats the right term, but a reverb which has a harsh decay cut off) there doesn't seem to be a main theme in here. youve got a buildup and it drops well, drives through but doesnt grab attention well IMO. whenever I hear a flanged instrument it somehow stays in the background. you have put a flanger on the lead synth and it's on all the time which is a mistake IMHO and just weakens it. I would have made a strong synth as a lead here, and if I feel like it, apply the flange effect only at some spots vocal part prior to the 4:15 drop is too long. it is followed by a very short buildup, you can get more tension by building up as the conversation follows, then drop the beats and bass beats are very nice programmed but sound a bit tinny, perhaps cut a bit of the high frequencies with the EQ. distorted bd's are not an original idea. noisia compile basslines using them, they pitch it down tho and process them to hell. main issue here could be as I mentioned the absence of a hook, a main theme to grab attention. nice edits and atmos you got but they don't just do justice thank you... __ Rinse it OUT!!!! 29-11-2005 03:58 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  for what?? __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 29-11-2005 10:10 TechDiff Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog Registration Date: 14-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  For proving the point that constructive criticism involves making suggestions on how to improve something, rather than just slating it. 29-11-2005 12:57 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  don't draw me into your discussions please. my review was in no way related to those, it only serves as a personal view on this track. if you read it you will find that each comment on a part of track I made is followed by a suggestion how to make it better.. no slating __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 29-11-2005 13:11 Soi Super Moderator Registration Date: 29-01-2003 Posts: 1,417 Helpfulness rating:  COPYRIGHTED SAMPLES ??? Lots of variety going on, that's nice. Vocal edits are nice. Bass could use some deep pounding sub that makes your head getting sucked into a headnodding movement.. almost there. Eq-ing is ok nice track __ a myspace my tunes "I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get." 29-11-2005 19:26 Surora23 Agressive Melodic Disorder Registration Date: 05-07-2004 Posts: 2,127 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by cynik don't draw me into your discussions please. my review was in no way related to those, it only serves as a personal view on this track. if you read it you will find that each comment on a part of track I made is followed by a suggestion how to make it better.. no slating \ i was not bringin you into it personally i was staing the fact that im not the only one that saw this track being thw ay it is... slating.. whatever people get over it... jesus christ... __ Rinse it OUT!!!! 29-11-2005 19:47 Pages (2): [1] 2 next » drumnbass.be forum » Production » Tunes » greyone - La Cosa Nostra