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Please check out my new track 'Unnamed Mixdown 5:23' and post your comments here!!!

This is something I've been working on. I know it needs a little work still (especially in the breakdowns) but check it out anyway, and throw some ideas my way. Thanks for listening


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20-11-2005 14:45 Homepage of additive
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The intro is nice. The beats are very weak however.
The 2:12 is not a good one. Switching themes is a bit rougly made. Nice sounds tho. What's the
sequencer you're working in? Reason? This would be a great one if you'd put it together a bit softly,
to make it run as a solid composition, not dif parts. Some fadeins and outs would really make it better
imo, and some more swooshing sounds and sweeps.

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What do you mean by the beats are weak? too quiet? not busy enough? or just a bad loop?

I use cubase SX 2 with a Halion sampler to make these. I made the drum sounds individually, and the loops out of the samples?

The bit you suggest making soft is the breakdown at 2:12 ?

You mean different sweeaps and sounds? or make more of the sweeps and sounds I've got?

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21-11-2005 00:17 Homepage of additive
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What do you mean by the beats are weak? too quiet? not busy enough? or just a bad loop?

They lack punch and they're too 'light'. They don't pound, they don't smash, they don't wanna shake my behind. The snare is like one short thumb and thats it. Layer or replace with a more snappy, punchy snare sound. The kick could use a bit beefing up too, it doesn't make impact now. You can hardly hear it in the mix.

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Intro is a bit boring in my ears, but it's not really my thing so it doesn't mean there's something wrong with it.

1:28 That melody is great, really put a smile on my face Pleased Love it when it comes back again later too.

I agree about the drums, they need power. The loops are cool though, rolling nicely. I'd consider putting a distortion on the snare before the eq, either that or layering. BD needs layering, compression or both.

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21-11-2005 19:11 Homepage of Dubrain Hertz
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Not punchy enough? For a single snare, it is punchy as fuck as is the kick-drum.

As for not being able to hear it in the mix, I don't know what track you're listening to, but the snare dominates!

I'm going to try layering some more over the snare and kick, but the idea was to keep it compeltely clean.

Distortion over snare and kick will take awake the punch!

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As for not being able to hear it in the mix, I don't know what track you're listening to, but the snare dominates!

Distortion over snare and kick will take awake the punch!


What sound system have you got? Seems like your track sounds very different at your place from here.

Distortion over snare doesn't take the punch out if done right. A tube-emulating overdrive combined with a high-pass (which comes AFTER distortion) at 200-350 Hz maybe with a small resonance peak often makes for a nice and punchy snare. That's how I do it anyway. Tongue

I never said anything about putting distortion on the kick tho, not that I never would, but it rarely works.

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22-11-2005 14:28 Homepage of Dubrain Hertz
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Alright dude. Intro is a little tacky for my taste, nice sounding none the less. The drums sound nice to me. It sounds like there is a little reverb which might be why they sound a little lacking. But they dont come through enough. Build up is quite nice, Id prefer it to take a little longer. Main sectiom is cool. The synths work really nicely, but the drums are definately lacking. They sound OK for the queiter bit, but with the main drops they dont have enough power, I think they sound to seperated too. It doesnt so much sound like a beat as a load of seperate samples together. Maybe a little more going on the beat would help this. The sweeps and stuff are really nice. As I said before, the synth stuff sound really good, but the rythmic element is lacking. Try introducing more rythmic stuff, percusion and chopping synths etc. I think it would give the track more energy and movement.
The quality is really good, the synths are nice, as is the sweeps and amibient paddy thing. I think a few more interesting rythmic sounds would fill this out a lot more, at the moment this sounds a little plain. For the intro the drums sound good. If there is some reverb on them, try taking it off. I think that you really need something more in the main sections though. A trashier snare and a more thumping kick drum, and some more hihat energy would work really well. It sounds as though youve gone for a human feel on the drums, it works really well for the intro, but in the main section I would imagine the drummer really thumping the snare drum but at the moment its more likie a polite tap. I think it might be worth pulling the drum beat a bit aswell, If you move some of the hits slightly earlier, only a very small amount, you can give the impresion of more energy as it will sound like the beat is always trying to go slightly faster. I like what is here so far, and there is a lot of things you could do with this tune. But at the moment its let down by the drums. I hope you do more with this as there is definatly the start of a cool tune here, I just think it needs a lot of work still.
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respect! thanks for the tips, i agree with pretty much all of what you're saying there. It gets really hard when you listen to something 1 billion times, and you try to imagine it going somewhere else... I really needed that kind of information so that i know where to go from here with it.
I like your ideas for the drums!!
Back to work I am... Thanks again
I have a feeling I have balanced my subwoofer incorrectly, as i tried it on another set of speakers, and the maximized bassline kills all the drums completely on other speakers. That's a simple fix, but i'll take on board what you said about the heavier drums at the drop.

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23-11-2005 03:31 Homepage of additive
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Pretty intro. Yeah drums could use a boost. Some cool sounds at the break. Melody is pretty cool. Bassline is in need of some attention as well. It almost feels like the notes should be a tiny bit longer. Give it some tuning and I think you will be straight.
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23-11-2005 20:52
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