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Hidden identity 
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Please check out my new track 'The Final Hour' and post your comments here!!!
This is it! This is it!
im aiming for track-of-the-month (november 17th)
If they dont put me on da list then all i ask is why!?
This track has been deleted because a new version is available
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18-11-2005 11:58 |
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Surya
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Well, mostly if a track is not selected, it's coz we felt there were at least 5 better tunes...
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18-11-2005 12:04 |
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Hidden identity
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Originally posted by Surya
Well, mostly if a track is not selected, it's coz we felt there were at least 5 better tunes... |
shit, i thought youd downloaded and listened to it...
did u?
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18-11-2005 12:07 |
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DJ_Fozzybear
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LOCKED NOW!!!
Sounds well old skool!!! (GOOD!!)
I like the synths and that distorted guitar type sound man.
The beat is troubling me though.......
Is it in mono or stereo?
If it is in stereo i would stick into mono man, it sounds like some of the punch an drive is being lost. Also i would eq the breaks and take out the bass to fit another BIG kick underneath it man and fit a BIG snare in there as well, will push the groove along more.
The musical elements are there and the concept is good just the beat needs more drive an integrity.
Also the mixdown on the breaks could be a bit tighter to bring out the fullness of your synths an bass.
CONCEPT: 4/5
MIXDOWN: 3/5
DANCEABILITY: 3/5
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18-11-2005 12:10 |
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Surya
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That's about to happen. Review later on!
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18-11-2005 12:10 |
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Hidden identity
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CONCEPT: 4/5
MIXDOWN: 3/5
DANCEABILITY: 3/5 |
i have a problem...
i dont give a shit about danceability or mix downs...
all i cair about is the feal of the song,
and i dont think that sound quality or structure matters after a sertain point.
The way i try to look at songs is in a general sence, the way that non-musicians look at them. I wanna focus most on the mood it gives you.
Am already guessing i wont get any song of the month shiz cause u want me to change the drum and the snare and all of that even though i custom mastered each perc sound antil i got it to exactly were i wanted it to be personaly, because alot of that realy specific sound quality stuff is about preferances and your own expectations...
well i dunno, i am gunnu make some albums for online music shops anyways, and i do this music shit on my own termz, if i get too much conformity around here then im gunnu stop uploading instead of complying. (sorry if i sound tooserious but now you know were i stand with all of this)
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18-11-2005 12:18 |
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dYzeaZe
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Dude you can do much better. Get some melody, some theme. You always sound too random, your music
isn't properly shaped and put together imo. And please give it a little break already - 5 tunes in a week is
not uploading, it's more like spamming. Wtf are rules made for?!
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18-11-2005 12:24 |
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Hidden identity
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Originally posted by dYzeaZe
Dude you can do much better. Get some melody, some theme. You always sound too random, your music
isn't properly shaped and put together imo. And please give it a little break already - 5 tunes in a week is
not uploading, it's more like spamming. Wtf are rules made for?! |
it was actualy one of my last onces, i dont have any more DnB songs left... and no its not random, i think you just dont like my style.
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18-11-2005 12:31 |
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DJ_Fozzybear
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i have a problem...
i dont give a shit about danceability or mix downs...
all i cair about is the feal of the song,
and i dont think that sound quality or structure matters after a sertain point.
The way i try to look at songs is in a general sence, the way that non-musicians look at them. I wanna focus most on the mood it gives you.
Am already guessing i wont get any song of the month shiz cause u want me to change the drum and the snare and all of that even though i custom mastered each perc sound antil i got it to exactly were i wanted it to be personaly, because alot of that realy specific sound quality stuff is about preferances and your own expectations...
well i dunno, i am gunnu make some albums for online music shops anyways, and i do this music shit on my own termz, if i get too much conformity around here then im gunnu stop uploading instead of complying. (sorry if i sound tooserious but now you know were i stand with all of this) |
Sorry man, i did not mean to offend you, i was trying to be honest. The reason i put down the three points (CONCEPT, MIXDOWN + DANCEABILITY) is not as a graded scale , just an indication of my personal opinion and preference.
To me D+B is dance music therefore it HAS to make people move.
Just my opinion.
Sorry i appeared to be putting you down, i was not i really like the song.
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18-11-2005 12:33 |
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Hidden identity
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Sorry man, i did not mean to offend you, i was trying to be honest. The reason i put down the three points (CONCEPT, MIXDOWN + DANCEABILITY) is not as a graded scale , just an indication of my personal opinion and preference.
To me D+B is dance music therefore it HAS to make people move.
Just my opinion.
Sorry i appeared to be putting you down, i was not i really like the song. |
thats ok, and thanks for concern.
im just wondering about the few here that do like my music is all.
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18-11-2005 12:35 |
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dYzeaZe
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Originally posted by Hidden identity
and no its not random, i think you just dont like my style. |
Dude I don't understand you at all, what do you want to see in the reviews?? It's my personal opinion,
you asked for that when you've posted your track! I say that I don't feel like many of the things are linked
together in your composition, and you say "No they are! You just don't like my style." When it comes to
randomness in tunes it ain't a question of taste and style, it's a question of musicality (is there a word like this?)
of the track. Many things don't fit imo and that's my personal opinion, and it's purely up to YOU to decide
whether you want or not to accept my critics. And to be honest, you're dissapointing me a bit because
you don't give much of a fuck about rules.
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18-11-2005 12:54 |
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Hidden identity
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Originally posted by dYzeaZe
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Originally posted by Hidden identity
and no its not random, i think you just dont like my style. |
Dude I don't understand you at all, what do you want to see in the reviews?? It's my personal opinion,
you asked for that when you've posted your track! I say that I don't feel like many of the things are linked
together in your composition, and you say "No they are! You just don't like my style." When it comes to
randomness in tunes it ain't a question of taste and style, it's a question of musicality (is there a word like this?)
of the track. Many things don't fit imo and that's my personal opinion, and it's purely up to YOU to decide
whether you want or not to accept my critics. And to be honest, you're dissapointing me a bit because
you don't give much of a fuck about rules. |
id already said in the Zone3 thread that the mods could delete it if they wanted to, Soft Comforts (1) is already gone, id uploaded again because of the incuragement to do so at the "soft comforts 2" thread, thats all, and like id said, im out of songs now. Ive been a member for many months, finaly started uploading alot these few days, have no new stuff left now, and thats all.
When i hear songs that i dont personaly like because of taste, often i dont even review because my review would be in-valid.
When i make suggestions its difforent then saying "you should" or "you need to" as i describe what id personaly have done to a song.
am tierd, dont wanna argue.
peace, have a good day. god night.
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18-11-2005 13:06 |
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Dubrain Hertz
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I like the start of it. THat fade-out fade-in is a bit weird too me, but alright in a way I guess. Love the Science-fiction adventure feel to this. I see a lone spaceship on a mission of exploration hehe. Drums are cool, but I would've liked it if they had more punch, especially the snare, maybe it just needs to be pitched down a tad. Melodies and chords here are very nice, good job on those. Drums get progressively cooler against the end.
All in all a sweet track, good work soldier.
Again, I love the melodies here.
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18-11-2005 13:08 |
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TechDiff
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Alright dude, Nice intro, the pads sound a little to simple, even just a little reverb to space them out a bit. Built up nicely, not too keen on the drum sounds, but thats just me. Why the fade out? I guess its a nice idea but I think it takes to long and gets too quiet. Right coming back in again, The arpegiated synth is cool, if a little dry again. I like the build up with the pads and bass stabs, sounds good but I think the arpegiated synth stands out too much. I think the drop at around 2;12 is pretty week, is was building up nicely but I think taking the arpeg out ruined it a bit. Drops in again at 2;30, not much build up. sounds cool if a bit cluttered. I think its the bass drum cause it sounds a bit muddy, The distorted synth bass line thing is pretty cool, I like the little variations at around 3:45. I think Id like this section more without the arp. It very overbaring and not that great a sound either. This could all do with some eqing, it all sounds a bit too busy, especially in the low-mid range, this could be why people are missing out the details youve put in. Anyway onwards.. The drums around 3:50 are pretty bad, a good rythm, but there is no punch and it all sounds a bit flappy, the section in general is a bit too simplistic. There was a nice little fill on the hats at the end though, liked that. Section starting at 4:19 is cool though, much more of a groove. I like the bitcrushed kicks. At around 4:50 there are some nice little variations in the synth too. There are some funny little drop outs though, sound pretty shoddy, theres one at bang on 5:00, sounds pretty messy. Sorry, but by the time its gets to 5:45 this is really starting to drag. Atmosphere at the end is good but shouldve come a lot sooner.
Overal I quite like this but there are a few things which bug me.
First the mix down is pretty bad, a lot of frequencies clashing and there isnt really a decent sence of space which is what this track really needs.
Second, I think the structuring at the begining is pretty bad too. I like the idea of fading it down, but not over such a long time, not so early on in the tune, and not to total silence.
Third, although youve put lots of little variations on the parts, which is definately a good thing, there isnt nearly enough happening in this tune to warrent over 6 minutes play length, it gets pretty boring at about 5. There are some nice little break downs here and there, but I think it needs to either evolve into something different as the track progresses, or after one of the breakdowns, go into something completely different.
I think there where some nice ideas in this, but for me at least, it was let down by the structuring, the excesive length, and the mix.
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18-11-2005 14:15 |
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Hidden identity
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| Again, I love the melodies here. |
Thank you 
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@TechDiff
I agree with most of what you said here.
@5:30 im cutting off stuff in-between the outro.
@2:18 the drums here have no punch at all, its a pre-made drum loop
that was sliced so i used volume envilopes to give each perc punch now.
I will make that LP fade out so that there are other sounds that arent filtered playing over that part to make it not so quiet or bland.
Im planning on adding new melodies a bit now to...
im making plans for Version 1.1 of the song now.
any other specific ideas for version 1.1 of the track?
ill do my best but emotionaly, it doesnt feal good when i do my best each time but then have to go back and destroy parts and change things, but anyways ill keep trying to get this shiz up to par cause i want that track of the month!
Dont any of you have that problem? Were you feal bad at having to change things later?...
^Working on other people songs (for me) is always easier then working on my own because then its not somthing that is so ingrained and self made.
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18-11-2005 20:42 |
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cynik
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nice electro feel this with Hid.Identity signature all over. I like the soundchoice better than in your previous tunes
it all broke loose when you dropped the synth too fast and then the filtered fadeout.. lost me there a bit
electro madness
Ilike the buildup at 2:00 wit it. gets very chilled with ye olde drumloop now, very oldskool indeed. nice mysterious stuff for some kind of spy movie with fast action, maybe a bomb countdown..
structure falls a bit short on ideas from then on, it's a shame because it has a nice vibe to it, with great bits of breakdowns and intelligent melodic little trippies. that said it all goes for too long, the stringish synth might be the cause for the stretched and dragging feel it makes as it goes further..
restructured, with less trips to the strings, more use of the guitar-synth and stronger, more focused breakdowns and buildups would make this the thing
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Yeah dude, I get the same thing. Once Im used to a track going a certain way, it feels weird to change it. But sometimes change can be a good thing. There is nothing I hate more than to not be completely satisfied with a track Ive made, that constant feeling of knowing it could be better. Afterall, if you are genuinely completely happy with a track youve made. It shouldnt matter what other peoples opinions are. Music should be written for yourself, if someone else likes it then thats a bonus, but the most important thing is that you love it, then that confidence will rub off onto others when youre showing it to them. You cant expect people to like something which you are not 100% on yourself. However, there isnt any point changing something unless youre sure you can make it better. Id draw a comparison to making a sculpture, one too many chips could ruin something, going one step too far is always a danger. Youve got to know when something is finished. Anyway, good luck with this one. I know my reveiw wasnt the best, but form listening to your other stuff Im sure you can do something much better with this one. I think the structural problems should be fairly easy to resolve, and a bit more care in the mix will bring all the little details out and a lot easier to pick up on. Good Luck.
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