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My new tower has 2 harddrives in it.
C: has the windows folders in it + program files stuff,
D: has nothing so far.

i was wondering if a virus would ever be able to screw up C: yet the D: would always be ok. D: is always accessable during run time.

am wondering about security and preventing file damage/virus crap.
any advice on how i should use my 2 harddrives properly?

thanx in advance, cya.

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er.....sorry..is that 2 hard drives.....or just one drive that has a partition?
17-11-2005 03:03
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I'm guessing it's a HP... that extra drive is the back up..more than likely you can set up restore and stuff...it's basically has all the factory setting(as the comp was when you took it out of the box)lets say that you get a nasty virus and you can't get rid of it..well you resart the comp and while it's restarting you keep pressing f10 or f8..one of those will give you the option to restore the comp...if you can't get rid of the virus w/ the otion to resore with user files you re going to have to restore to factory settings ..this will set it back as if new..losing all files installed after you got it

this drive is to my knowlege protected

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quote:
Originally posted by Hidden identity
My new tower has 2 harddrives in it.
C: has the windows folders in it + program files stuff,
D: has nothing so far.

i was wondering if a virus would ever be able to screw up C: yet the D: would always be ok. D: is always accessable during run time.

am wondering about security and preventing file damage/virus crap.
any advice on how i should use my 2 harddrives properly?

thanx in advance, cya.


A lot of virusses copy themselves, so yes it can get on both drives easily unless you put some kind of write protection on the second one.
You could do 2 things:
Either use one drive for all your programs, and one for all your data. That way if you would ever have to reinstall you OS or something, your data should be safe.
The other way of working is to install your OS and programs you don't use that much on disk one. The programs you use a lot (mostly audio programs I suppose, you can install on disk 2, together with your data. That way they will be accessible faster.
Third possibility, (only possible with SATA HD's I think) is to put them in RAID mode. That way data is automatically spread across the two disks, allowing them to work faster. Downside is that if one disk gives up, you can't use the other one either.

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Ok, first, let me explain you some virus actions when you have only drive directories and when you splitted your drive on partitions.

The virus thinks usualy seeks for the system folder, which is usualy found in c:\windows\ or c:\windows\system\ and then it spread through the system partition (the partition where the windows folder is found).

Now, if you don't have partitions, he will spread on all your files on c:
If you make partitions, and organize your files that way, your virus will spread only on c: partition leaving you the rest quite secure.

It is up to you what to do. Very few viruses touch the non-system partitions.

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That's not true, there is nothing to stop a virus to infect every mounted drive. For example, the once widespread I Love You virus damaged all JPG and MP3 files on all mounted drives.

I have 4 harddisks in my system at home (2x IDE, 2x SATA) and use a program called Partition Magic. One of the IDE drives is split into 3 main partitions one for audio, one for web development and one for general use (mail, surfing etc). I can start up any of these at bootup. The audio partition has the two SATA drives available to write multitrack sessions, but these are not mounted when I boot the other two partitions.

The second IDE drive is shared between all three bootup partitions and I can use this to transfer data, and it has my MP3 collection on it so I can listen to music no matter which partition I'm working in.

I also have a 250GB external backup drive on firewire which I only switch on when making backups.

The advantage is that if my mail partition would get infected with a virus it can never damage the important files on the audio and web development partitions because they are not mounted.

The downside is that you have to buy multiple Windows licenses, or use linux on your internet partition.

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I think the easiest way to void viruses on your sytem is to run 2 computers, one for music which isnt connected to the net, and one for everything else which is. Its also important to have a backup copy of everything on an external HD. Its not worth risking anything and they only cost about £60. Any storage device attached to your computer can potentialy be infected.
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quote:
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I think the easiest way to void viruses on your sytem is to run 2 computers, one for music which isnt connected to the net, and one for everything else which is. Its also important to have a backup copy of everything on an external HD. Its not worth risking anything and they only cost about £60. Any storage device attached to your computer can potentialy be infected.

Exactly. That's the way to do it if you really want to be safe. For internet and mail an old PC is good enough, and you can use memory sticks, rewritable media or external drives to transfer stuff between them.

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well yah ive got 2 towers,
and i am gunnu have a usb 2 way cable soon to send stuff from 1 to the other.

id thought my musical works would be bullet proof if i had back ups on CDRs, and both towers... Big Grin
^
so thats what ive got going now!

Thanx for all help
(and the "i love you" virus sounds like a real sunuvu bitch!)

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Strange, but I had wars (literally) with so many viruses (the Crusaders) and still noone touched my other hard drive which is in the same tower. They didn't even spread out of c: at all! Hmm...

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quote:
Originally posted by Hidden identity
well yah ive got 2 towers,
and i am gunnu have a usb 2 way cable soon to send stuff from 1 to the other.

id thought my musical works would be bullet proof if i had back ups on CDRs, and both towers... Big Grin
^
so thats what ive got going now!

Thanx for all help
(and the "i love you" virus sounds like a real sunuvu bitch!)


my suggestio to that is use firewire, or learn to turn off usb on the music computer when you're not using it. usb constantly self checks for hardware, and sucks system resourses in the mad obbsession for new hardware. even when the hardware is connected.

also, not every virus can spread from partitons, but some can. some can even affect netwroked computers. worms. there different than a trojan.
it's like how different dieses int he real world are contracted. some by body fluids, some b skin contact.

12 seconds of being ont he net before you get a virus, without any protection. just being on the net. it's getting worse than it ever was, and it's only gunna get worse, and compared to the old dos programs, ya. you never got a malcious virus from telenet.

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12 seconds of being ont he net before you get a virus, without any protection. just being on the net. it's getting worse than it ever was, and it's only gunna get worse, and compared to the old dos programs, ya. you never got a malcious virus from telenet.

wow, that sux!
I only have norton anti-virus...
maybe i should get more?

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wow, that sux!
I only have norton anti-virus...
maybe i should get more?


Noooooo! Never mix 2 or more antivirus programs!!! They wil track them selves suspecting each other of virus activities (because they're both checkin the hard drive on access, presumably) and they will go in endless loop. Bam, blocking your comp Big Grin

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