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short-wave short-wave is a male
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Please check out my new track 'end of game' and post your comments here!!!

this tune was a collab for a compition that a local dnb forum did. it is rough in places. the deadline had passed and maybe still i will get it entered if......well the samples were provided and you could not use anything else. we did not take it out of reason, so it seems that it lost a bit of luster that we are used to...here is to deadlines, everybody loves em' this is kinda a tech-sci-fi-roller.

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03-09-2005 04:37 Homepage of short-wave
cynik cynik is a male
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notes in the intro bothered me

not too fond of the clappy snare.. dont feel the kick either

nice buildup to the drop! tension building.. then it fades away. I dont get this, with that kind of buildup it should have smashed with power, well only my opinion

the tune has got a nice groove when the bassline powers it but I dont like the sound chosen for it

not feeling the vocals.. nice fx on them tho.. then you couldnt change them as being part of that compo

again those notes from the intro - ditch them, they are awful, man!!

it all just sounded a bit flat, not enough rolling.. I did like the feel to it here and there but not enough to say it's really good, sorry

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03-09-2005 12:35 Homepage of cynik
short-wave short-wave is a male
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notes in the intro bothered me

not too fond of the clappy snare.. dont feel the kick either

nice buildup to the drop! tension building.. then it fades away. I dont get this, with that kind of buildup it should have smashed with power, well only my opinion

the tune has got a nice groove when the bassline powers it but I dont like the sound chosen for it

not feeling the vocals.. nice fx on them tho.. then you couldnt change them as being part of that compo

again those notes from the intro - ditch them, they are awful, man!!

it all just sounded a bit flat, not enough rolling.. I did like the feel to it here and there but not enough to say it's really good, sorry
i hope to never open this tune again... it sucked being limited to a sample pack. i went crazy running in circles wondering how to surprise people with a drop. i do need to work on it. check out the other track i posted today...its more my style. thanks for the input. the intro does sound bad...lol. next time. Cry

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03-09-2005 12:38 Homepage of short-wave
Nick ZZ Nick ZZ is a male
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Beats are not coming threw well, if you set your kick at -6 db (that's a standard level) and layer it with 2 or 3 seperate kicks. Synths can use some love, if you layer your synth 2 at the least you will have a massive sound. I usually use a high synth and a low synth to make I synth sound. Bigup Keep on working on it. Bigup 6/10* Z

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03-09-2005 12:53 Homepage of Nick ZZ
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Ok, Youre good on building a interesting tune with all kind of elements happening around tune. Plenty of things to listen. You do not degrade yourself into copy-paste too much. This is all good.

What you lack yet is producing skills. I think I´ll start collecting a standard set of advices I can copypaste, because I end up repeating myself all the time.

To get better production, try these tricks:

get your favourite set of songs in same genre than this. Upload them to stereo tracks in your favourite sequencer, along with your tune. Mute all except one, do a comparison session. Analytically compare other tracks to yours. Write notes. You will notice stuff, like frequency-wise some stuff is a bit out of place, bass needs more/less bottom, more aggressive beats at second half of the song need work and so on. That work sucks, because youre pinpointing your faults. but youre going into right direction!

Then comes the hard part. You know whats wrong, but how to get that in there? Plenty can be done with EQ. Do this: Take one band out of a a EQ, crank Q -value (wideness of the EQ curve, higher it is, smaller area of frequency spectrum is affected) into something like 10, boost with 12-20 dB, and sloooowly sweep around the frequency spectrum, listening the change. You will notice, that around 60-80Hz there is much more trouser-flapping bass. In 250Hz bass sounds boomy. 10kHz snare gets a clicking sound, 12-14kHz hihats get sparkle and so on. When you find what youre looking for, then you can start experimenting with proper EQ settings.

Try listening your tune in different loudspeakers and rooms. harrass your friends, mom, music shops with monitor loudspeakers.

What you could also do, is to analytically listen some good songs in similar genre, and steal ideas and production methods from those songs.

read a book about production. Honestly. there are some in every good library. You can actually steal production tips from rock music book and most of that works all well to distorted to hell ass kicking DnB. Thats where I get my review tips Big Grin

Melodically and structure wise quite good, production has plenty of things to do. 4/10

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09-09-2005 20:59
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very bland! could do wid a little fx can't realy say much vary the bass pattern needs more work.
19-02-2008 13:08
X-Spitfire X-Spitfire is a male
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For sure it need a little bit more variations of bassline. Overall, it feel a little... flat for me. The concept is ok, but just make it sound more interesting, fill the gaps.
20-02-2008 20:49 Homepage of X-Spitfire
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