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Halph-Price 
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I have only talked with a few dnbheads...dnbbers? junglists ... umm... well anyways, the dnb people...
Now they have gone to raves every weekend for 2 years, or more, and msot of them don't know anything about the music, like reece, maybe teh amen, but other than that, they really seem untrained at what music is about, structure wise and everything...
i will say that this is like this in every music genre, that the fan's won't know a c chord from a e chord, but they know what they like, and all the whining about use ofamen's and all that, and repativeness, people don't know or care about...
does any normal dnbist's really have any crtique about the music? do some of them know about the intricates about the music?
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27-08-2005 17:22 |
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Friscko
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27-08-2005 17:27 |
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Greyone
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cause its an appart genre with less people than Techno , a gengre that needs organisation of parties and the music itself.
untrained , maybe . But the untrained do know the difference between amateur and pro.
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27-08-2005 17:42 |
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Halph-Price
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yea, as long as it sound's good. but beyond that . . . .
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29-08-2005 15:13 |
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Muad'Dib
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That means that we should emphasize good sound, and not too much of "ear candy"
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29-08-2005 15:38 |
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Halph-Price
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we're the only ones that get annoyed of hearing the amen.
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30-08-2005 12:56 |
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its real scary how much the people that swear to loving music, music is my life, i would die without music, dont even know what 4/4 is or a compressor. with dnb it seems that people go just because its "underground" or so they can say that they went to a "rave" whatever, i was going somewhere with this but i keep getting distracted ..
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19-09-2005 12:53 |
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Muad'Dib
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Yea, they should know that MUSIC ain't only the tune... music is the whole thing behind that...
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20-09-2005 17:30 |
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Friscko
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what i notice is that because a lot of the people dont know about the breakdown-drop structure most dnb has, they start start to complain if dj's dont mix at an unhuman tempo, to avoid the breakdowns.
dnb is not house or techno. it aint got a beat gooing on all the time. they dont catch it
(this an expiernce from parties i went to, not played at 
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20-09-2005 19:18 |
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Nouveau_Riche
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Originally posted by Friscko
what i notice is that because a lot of the people dont know about the breakdown-drop structure most dnb has, they start start to complain if dj's dont mix at an unhuman tempo, to avoid the breakdowns.
dnb is not house or techno. it aint got a beat gooing on all the time. they dont catch it
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Yeah, a lot of people are always complaining about the "silent parts" in my set.
I promised someone that my next set would be without them, but that's gonna be a though nut to crack. And most songs lose a lot of their power without the silent parts.
But oh well, we'll see how it turns out.. maybe the crowd digs it
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20-09-2005 19:26 |
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Friscko
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Originally posted by Nouveau_Riche
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Originally posted by Friscko
what i notice is that because a lot of the people dont know about the breakdown-drop structure most dnb has, they start start to complain if dj's dont mix at an unhuman tempo, to avoid the breakdowns.
dnb is not house or techno. it aint got a beat gooing on all the time. they dont catch it
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Yeah, a lot of people are always complaining about the "silent parts" in my set.
I promised someone that my next set would be without them, but that's gonna be a though nut to crack. And most songs lose a lot of their power without the silent parts.
But oh well, we'll see how it turns out.. maybe the crowd digs it |
imagine Messiah without "aaaaaah", quite boring innit..
yesterday the 1/2 hour wontime mix on stubru..what a heap of hyperfast mixed boredom, wontime's a good dj, but this was really mixed too fast, give the music some time to breath.
And btw, imagine a crowd that has been dancing to dnb, wtihout breakdowns, for a whole night..how many percent would still be alive?
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20-09-2005 20:04 |
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cynik
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I only realised what they were doing when they had a rewind and I thought " I don't remember this bit of the tune" |
kind of a common practice in my experience, when a dj mixes from the drop or abit before, when he does the rewind, tune plays from the intro...
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21-09-2005 14:19 |
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Friscko
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Originally posted by gls
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Originally posted by cynik
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Originally posted by gls
I only realised what they were doing when they had a rewind and I thought " I don't remember this bit of the tune" |
kind of a common practice in my experience, when a dj mixes from the drop or abit before, when he does the rewind, tune plays from the intro... |
Any idiot could mix from drop to drop, where's the skill in that? |
idd, and u even dont have to be able to beatmatch
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21-09-2005 14:32 |
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cynik
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you are right, every fucker can do square drop to drop djing nowadays and get away with it..
come to think, I cant remember last time I felt thrilled by a performance, it seems the crowd is just waiting for their favorite plate to spin.. like techno :X
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21-09-2005 14:35 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
I have only talked with a few dnbheads...dnbbers? junglists ... umm... well anyways, the dnb people...
Now they have gone to raves every weekend for 2 years, or more, and msot of them don't know anything about the music, like reece, maybe teh amen, but other than that, they really seem untrained at what music is about, structure wise and everything...
i will say that this is like this in every music genre, that the fan's won't know a c chord from a e chord, but they know what they like, and all the whining about use ofamen's and all that, and repativeness, people don't know or care about...
does any normal dnbist's really have any crtique about the music? do some of them know about the intricates about the music? |
i wouldnt really consider these people tru fans...theyre jsut standard lil ravers that dont know breakbeat from dnb anyway...they dont know names of people or even genre differences...thats the general public that calls all electronic music techno...whether its dnb or not...they may like dieselboy, and then throw in some house music, and ask you waht the difference is...they dont know...but they sure as hell know they like it...
depeds on the scene...like there are tons of dnb heads out there that know the history like tht back of their hands...its not the majority...but a lot of heads in the US fallow it pretty closely..they know their fav producers, djs, and the ones who dont produce still know music structure etc... doesnt really matter where you are annymore...music is just entertainment and most eople just dont care whats behind it...they just want to dance or wahtever...
and as far as djs cheating...i HATE REWINDS...it pisses me off...if you cant mix for 3 hrs strait without stoping...
#1 you shoudnt be playing at a gig
#2 you should be ashamed and laughed at HAHA
#3 need to go back to your bedroom and do a billion mixtapes untill you can say you made a decent mix...
too mnay dj's just do shit mixes now..its rediculous...thre needs to be a tolerance to the shows people are given...i cnat tell you how many shit djs i see...that suck balls at mixing...but the crowd loves them just cause they play some realy hot tunes...
and i dont think that boils down to what a dj should be...however tahts what happens...
now anyone can mix 2 records...but to do it tastefully, and skillfully is another thing...
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21-09-2005 15:10 |
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Muad'Dib
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But lil ravers listen to what they like, and they DONT need to know what is Jungle and what is house... they make their money out of other things, and come to spend them on parties, to have a listen to a good music.
I would be thrilled when 15,000 ppl know the name of the tune the dj's spinning, but that is not possible because
#1 Not everyone know mathematics - the people that should know, know it.
#2 Not everyone wants to know, or has the TIME to learn.
But it's VERY IRITATING when they meet you at a party and ask you who's the DJ. How did they find out about the party? Through flyers or ads. On these there is ALWAYS THE NAME OF THE DJS.
Moronz.
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21-09-2005 16:54 |
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Surya
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Originally posted by Muad'Dib
But it's VERY IRITATING when they meet you at a party and ask you who's the DJ. How did they find out about the party? Through flyers or ads. On these there is ALWAYS THE NAME OF THE DJS.
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The thing is: flyers often don't state the order, so they're wondering who of the people on the flyer is currently playing...
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21-09-2005 17:03 |
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Muad'Dib
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Be sure that I can recognize the man that saw the flyer... 
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