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Well I'm looking to do some serious upgrading here and this audio card caught my attention and thought to try and get some input if anyone knows if this card is worth the cash. The one I found costs 219.95 at zzounds.com but if I decide to go with it, I'm gonna try and find cheaper if possible. But this card seems perfect for the price. I was also looking into an MAudio Oxygen 8 25-Key USB MIDI Keyboard Controller to compliment the new card. I'm not looking for th etop of the line studio shit, but this combo sounded pretty good. Any feedback?

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dunno about the card but for that price it has to be good!

the controller caught my attention a while ago because of it's low price but reasonable quality... didn't get it tho but I have heard mostly compliments about it

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I was thinking about getting this card. 10 ins, 10 outs, midi in, midi out... nice! I'm not sure though, since the RME Digi should be better, but it has less in/outs and no midi, and it costs more... I'll probably go for the 1010LT

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yeah, it looks to have a boat load of nice features which made it sound pretty reasonable at the price. one of the other things that caught my attention to is i read in a description somewhere about it supposedly having next to 0 latency. that for me is gonna be a major plus if thats true. im sure there's always gonna be that lil' bit, but im sur eits a hell of alot better than what i got.

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i dunno tho, i was reading some reviews about the controller and it was mostly good things, just the thing i noticed alot of people commenting about was the "plasticy" feeling the knobs had, but it definitely gets the job done and its great for on the go people. nice and small.

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Most ASIO capable cards have almost 0 latency, mostly 2 or 4 ms, which is very nice!

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Most ASIO capable cards have almost 0 latency, mostly 2 or 4 ms, which is very nice!


*cough* not mine *cough* piece of shit...lol

of cours eit ain't an ASIO soundcard anyhow, go figure Frown

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Same here, but I got ASIO4ALL now, which lets me reduce the latency to 20ms (which is still pretty much) down from 200ms with the normal drivers Roll Eyes Soundblaster Live! crap...

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Same here, but I got ASIO4ALL now, which lets me reduce the latency to 20ms (which is still pretty much) down from 200ms with the normal drivers Roll Eyes Soundblaster Live! crap...


yeah, i feel ya man, exactly what i have. not a bad card aside from that tho, i mean it gets what i need to get done.

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hell no. gotta dissagree, I got a Live! (emutek 1010 chip, every SbLive has it) and it has a low frequency humm from 60hz and down Frown

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Soundblaster cards have a shitty signal to noise ratio and a far from flat frequency responce. Doesn't matter for gaming, but it's total crap for producing!

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Finally got my card today Big Grin

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Emu 0404 (Creative made ) but still has almost no latency .. 6-10ms

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has anybody tried the kx driver ?

less latency than normal ASIO!

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quote:
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Emu 0404 (Creative made ) but still has almost no latency .. 6-10ms

Erm, the Delta 1010LT is supposed to have down to 1.5ms latency (haven't installed it yet)
10ms is acually still pretty much!

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Emu 0404 (Creative made ) but still has almost no latency .. 6-10ms

Erm, the Delta 1010LT is supposed to have down to 1.5ms latency (haven't installed it yet)
10ms is acually still pretty much!


i know it ... and it pisses me off ... LOL

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...far from flat frequency responce. ...


I think that has nothing to do with the soundcard. I mean, all cards can process all frequencies and sounds, the thing is how fast (delay) and with what quality (bit rate).

But nothing is touched at the flat freq response. You can't have an audio card that has stronger high frequencies, because their structure is to render ALL sounds by mathematical instructions, and not analogical.

The frequency response might be problem of the speakers/monitors...

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I think Surya is right, unfortunately. you get "coloring" by a soundcard with a bumpy freq. response. such is the SbLive! series. the sound coming out of the card is "colored" by noises coming with the signal.

_edit: Muad'Dib I tried pm-ing you but your inbox was full Frown

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Will make some room, will answer this later...

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Your sound card really does color your sound
It's the AD/DA convertors on it that do this.

So if everything stays digital, there is no coloration. If everything is made inside your pc, and you put it on a cd, then there is no need for a decent sound card (unless for the speed of your program maybe).
But if you want to record stuff, or play back stuff (also if you want to listen to the music entirely made on your pc and that you're gonna put on cd), frequency response of the AD/DA convertor on your sound card really does matter a lot.
And a decent AD/DA convertor is not cheap at all. That's also the reason why cards with an (almost) flat frequency response aren't very cheap either, certainly if you have a lot of inputs and outputs...

AD/DA conversion is the most important part of the chain if you travel from the analog world to the digital and back.
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