How to get your kicks right

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PassDa J. PassDa J. is a male

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Yo dudes, could you help me out by explaining to me how to make a good kick or how a dnb-kick is supposed to sound like cause my kicks allways sound to techno-like ...

Sorry for the strange question, was a lil' high Pleased

04-08-2005 19:30

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just be really picky about the sounds you use.........acoustic kicks always sound best to me....

04-08-2005 20:26

dmccabe dmccabe is a male

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yeah, acoustic or Rnb type kicks. But there aren't any "rules". Depending on the type of track
you could use any kick. As long as you feel it sits right with the track. Just curious what are you
using ie FL, reason, cubase, hardware?

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04-08-2005 21:06

PassDa J. PassDa J. is a male

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FL, but do you put something extra to the kick? To boost it more ... like another sound for instance ...

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05-08-2005 13:23

Halph-Price Halph-Price is a male

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Fruity Bass boost.

boost it at about 80-100

use it on basslines from 60-80.

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05-08-2005 17:41

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when mixing down in cubase, i always boost the drum track at around 95hz, and cut it at 95 on all the bass tracks

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05-08-2005 20:45

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Second Dave Akuma, that trick + some occasional (if necessary) side chaining does the trick on pre-prepared layered (hi kickstab + low&longer kick boom) kicks.

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05-08-2005 20:56

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cut beneath 60-70hz and cut some 400hz

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06-08-2005 00:48

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quote:

Originally posted by PassDa J.
FL, but do you put something extra to the kick? To boost it more ... like another sound for instance ...

I use FL for my sequences and basically it all depends on the track I'm doing. I like personally to use kicks with shorter decay time. Kinda quick and punchy. then I like to use the fruity compressor to just kinda fatten it up a bit, just to make it punch a bit more. I'm not a huge fan of acoustic kicks but that's just a preference. Also, if I can't achieve the sound I want with just one kick, I might layer it up with another one to get a new sound out of it. I've never really fooled around much with making my own kicks from scratch as I have such a huge archive of drum one shots. Starting with good samples is a plus as well.

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06-08-2005 03:45

Emblem-X Emblem-X is a male

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I usually layer 2 or 3 kicks: one fast kick with very short attack, one with a longer release, and one to get the sound like I want to.

then I put the same fx on each kickdrum and eq them at the same time:

fruity blood overdrive: gives a nice analog sounding distortion (great for basslines, snares and hats too, it gives the drum a sold sound without distorting it too much)

fruity parametric eq: I eq them all at the same time to get one solid kickdrum sound.

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06-08-2005 13:13

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quote:

Originally posted by Emblem-X
I usually layer 2 or 3 kicks: one fast kick with very short attack, one with a longer delay, and one to get the sound like I want to.

then I put the same fx on each kickdrum and eq them at the same time:

fruity blood overdrive: gives a nice analog sounding distortion (great for basslines, snares and hats too, it gives the drum a sold sound without distorting it too much)

fruity parametric eq: I eq them all at the same time to get one solid kickdrum sound.

told you this many times already passda

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06-08-2005 13:17

Emblem-X Emblem-X is a male

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an other important thing is to find the sweetspot in frequency of the kick you've composed. Start sweeping the bassfrequencies and see what fits best in the loop as well in the whole tune.

Then I mostly cut tem around 80-85hz. and boost them a little around 1800-2500hz. It makes then stand out a bit more in the mix imo.

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06-08-2005 13:39

PassDa J. PassDa J. is a male

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Thanks for the info yo

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06-08-2005 14:24

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Fruity Kick + Filtering + Fruity blood Overdrive

07-08-2005 16:34

Aaron Patey
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Find good clean kick samples, lots of them.

1. Lay down a heavy kick and boost the lower freqs and cut the highest ones.
2. Lay down another regular kick (preferably something acoustic) and boost the low-mid freqs.

The first kick is for the heavy feel and the second is for the punch to give it some life.

I find that I get the thickest kicks when I eq the first one with TC's Parametric EQ (kick drum preset) and then the second one I use fruity parametric EQ (bassdrum punch preset). It sounds heavy to me Big Grin

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08-08-2005 05:23

PassDa J. PassDa J. is a male

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quote:

Originally posted by Aaron Patey
Find good clean kick samples, lots of them.

1. Lay down a heavy kick and boost the lower freqs and cut the highest ones.
2. Lay down another regular kick (preferably something acoustic) and boost the low-mid freqs.

The first kick is for the heavy feel and the second is for the punch to give it some life.

I find that I get the thickest kicks when I eq the first one with TC's Parametric EQ (kick drum preset) and then the second one I use fruity parametric EQ (bassdrum punch preset). It sounds heavy to me Big Grin

Wow, sounds to me you know allot about producing, allready asked for producer-rights? If not you should ... Curious about your style ..

Laterz thanx for the info ..

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09-08-2005 22:30

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You could also run a bass sample or from a synth VSTi. Use a sine wave with a short envelope and cut some of the high freq (if any). You could run this through a compressor and distort slightly then play alongside a 909 kick for a tech sound or something acoustic. Be sure that it doesnt resonate badly with your bassline though.

27-02-2006 08:15

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Or, if you want the kick to have the 'thump' attack, you should make it with high attack rates.

To do this, put a compressor in the FX which will collect the bass and the kick lines, and then on the compressor set attack times which are more than 15 ms and less than 80 ms.

Ratio set to 3:1.

The decay set to 100ms or something (not less)

Add a little gain.

Now when the kick attacks, it will pass the compressor in the first few milliseconds, giving that phat thump, and then mingle with the bassline. Bigup

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27-02-2006 08:57

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im using low cut beneath 60 hz, boost at 60, and some compressing

use of the right sample is important though

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28-02-2006 10:58

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quote:

Originally posted by Daz
You could also run a bass sample or from a synth VSTi. Use a sine wave with a short envelope and cut some of the high freq (if any). You could run this through a compressor and distort slightly then play alongside a 909 kick for a tech sound or something acoustic. Be sure that it doesnt resonate badly with your bassline though.

yeah this is great if you have a really long bass woomf (or a phat tom) even with acoustic sounding drums. just have one at the start of each bar and it pulls everything along. its kinda old school drumnbass \ prodigy style

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