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Sir:Ender 
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Im new to production . What are most dnb producers using, software or hardware? What are the pros and cons of the two? What should I invest in? Which products are the best?
[EDIT by Muad'Dib: Changed thread name because of clearness]
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02-08-2005 10:24 |
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cynik
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Surya
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A LOT of producers these days only use software...
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02-08-2005 11:02 |
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Most producers use software......but they tend to run it through a desk for mixing, or even just run a stereo mix through a desk so they get the character of the desk in their tracks......and soo they dont sound like everyone else
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02-08-2005 13:18 |
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syneptic
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i would invest in software.......it is very expensive to buy good hardware,software is much cheaper,and like surya said,lot prod only use software,if you understand and work hard with some progs,you don´t need anything else.....
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02-08-2005 14:24 |
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Halph-Price
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most good synths are software. use software, and get some hardware to make it sound better, usually running it through something with "tubes" (valvue) helps the sound quality by taking away the perfect software sound.
or tape reels also. just something to give it hardware warmth.
what most do now it seems. oh and hardware doesn't hurt if you can afford it.
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02-08-2005 15:24 |
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syneptic
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
oh and hardware doesn't hurt if you can afford it. |
..........if........
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02-08-2005 17:39 |
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Originally posted by Sir:Ender
Im new to production . What are most dnb producers using, software or hardware? What are the pros and cons of the two? What should I invest in? Which products are the best? |
it's better to start with software... contact some people for VSTi stuff
(Virtual Studio Technology instruments or whatever, I don't know the name), and then start buying synthesizers 
Good LUCK!!! you'll need it
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02-08-2005 18:46 |
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ethex
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soft is better and cheaper!
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02-08-2005 20:21 |
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soft is better and cheaper! |
Can't really say much to that as I'm sure both have there pros and cons. I never used hardware in my productions so I'm not gonna swear by either one, but apparently anymore it seems there's alot that can be achieved nowadays with software that can't be done with hardware. I know software can be just as expensive, but it seems so convenient for me to have a whole studio setup in one desktop unit, I don't think I'd bother going hardware setup.
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06-08-2005 03:53 |
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Halph-Price
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well said. soft is much cheaper. this is why i use it. SIMPLE answer. next question.
but reallys, peple say the same thing anytime anything musically comes around. the humbuckelrs that were used for the first electric guitar people that were long time advocates of the acustic guitar said ti's not a real instrument and it was a perversion and it'll never catch on, and pretty much every inovation of music and sound is alwyas frowned upon, but eventually it finds a niche, and it's immutable. it's a standard that in twenty years we couldn't even be able to think of music WITHOUT it.
software will only improve. you'll see that one day. specially with sampling.
hell all new forms of synthesis, are not done analog, there all comptuer. wavetables, FM, Granual,and anything else you can think of other than additive and subtractive and samping. sampling is even done more with digital computers than analog, even back in the day, htere was a nice 12-bit sound by some of the old smaplers. because it wasn't analog, but a former of comptuer software, utalzing quanties of flashed RAM.
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 06-08-2005 17:20.
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06-08-2005 17:15 |
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the software vs hardware discussion.... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz....... zzzzzz.....
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06-08-2005 17:18 |
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Surya
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the software vs hardware discussion.... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz....... zzzzzz..... |
How about soft vs hard music 
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06-08-2005 17:50 |
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teknyne
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software all the way, a man on my budget cant afford stacks of hardware but can quite easily have a software based recording studio in my room. its ace! software can produce really high quality sound these days too
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I'd suggest to complement software with some choice hardware. Using only software often makes tracks sound bland and uninteresting imo. Throwing in a bit of hardware gives productions more character.
On the other hand, an all hardware setup is too limiting. Especially stuff like sequencers, multitrack recorders and samplers are a pain to use in hardware, even though they are still excellent for playing live sets. I guess only the foolhardy and melancholic types are still using a 100% hardware setup.
I can recommend some hardware units that can really spice up your software based productions. Some stuff can be really expensive, but some units are very affordable:
- tube gear: compressors, EQ's, overdrive/distortion,... - for that essential tube warmth
- guitar pedals - cheap but screaming with character
- special analog effects units: sherman filterbank, moogerfooger effects etc - to give a special twist to your sounds
- analog EQ: on a mixing desk or in rack units - to get your mix right quick and easy
- analog compressors: much faster to work with, and better sounding than the plugin counterparts
- hardware synths: stuff like the Access Virus, Clavia Modular, Triton series, Motif series etc - tons of fun and awesome lead and bass sounds, but rather expensive.
- a microphone to record your own samples!!
For me, since I'm using analog mixing desks nearly every day I regret it when I have to mix projects in software. Having a dedicated controller such as the Procontrol helps, but it is still very tedious. What takes a couple of minutes on a hardware desk can take hours to achieve in software. I'd settle for anything in software, but I'll always prefer an analog desk for mixing. The problem is that these things are really expensive for the home producer, with the cheapest good sounding models costing more than 2500 euro for a basic 16 channel version...
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12-08-2005 03:28 |
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Halph-Price
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ya, software vs. hardware, since softwares cheaper it's beter for us, but many pros. (all pros.) like analog for that versatility, and stability.
i think softsynths can be throwning in with a hardware song to compliment it, but probably does sound liek shit with all softsynth. it's not really voaltage. ohwell, sampling works just as good. and one day physical modelling with replace samples.
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Surya
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Originally posted by thechronic
- guitar pedals - cheap but screaming with character |
I'm planning on buying some, any specific brands/models you can recoment? I'm looking for bass distortions offcourse
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12-08-2005 12:55 |
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- guitar pedals - cheap but screaming with character |
I'm planning on buying some, any specific brands/models you can recoment? I'm looking for bass distortions offcourse
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boss.- anything by this lot is usually good, theyve been around for ages.
line 6 pod.
korg.
digitech - ok...not bad...
to be honest its like anything.....you get what you spend.....but your better off buying one or two individual boss units rahter than a cheap all in one.....if your gonna get an all in one get an more costly one......i would get the pod.
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12-08-2005 13:24 |
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B-complex
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One very important thing worth to mention with hardware setup is, that you can't "save" your settings 
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