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People argue that the sound quality in Reason is less than that of Logic and Cubase etc. but this is more down to the producers skill rather than the programs they use. . |
not entirely true---reason's sound engine IS inferior to most others, which is why all the bigger names who do use reason always rewire into logic or cubase or something else, cuz reason by itself does sound 'reason-ish' in sound quality...has to do with the algorithyms and all that..
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Surya
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People argue that the sound quality in Reason is less than that of Logic and Cubase etc. but this is more down to the producers skill rather than the programs they use. . |
not entirely true---reason's sound engine IS inferior to most others, which is why all the bigger names who do use reason always rewire into logic or cubase or something else, cuz reason by itself does sound 'reason-ish' in sound quality...has to do with the algorithyms and all that.. |
I've heard this before, but no one ever tells me my tracks sound thin or Reason-ish or whatever, and I don't rewire. But the sound engine is different, that's why it's so CPU effective. I'm still not sure if I would hear the difference when doing a rewire...
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05-08-2005 00:52 |
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Halph-Price
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yea, the lack of lfo's is annoying.
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05-08-2005 01:14 |
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05-08-2005 02:38 |
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Originally posted by TechDiff
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People argue that the sound quality in Reason is less than that of Logic and Cubase etc. but this is more down to the producers skill rather than the programs they use. . |
not entirely true---reason's sound engine IS inferior to most others, which is why all the bigger names who do use reason always rewire into logic or cubase or something else, cuz reason by itself does sound 'reason-ish' in sound quality...has to do with the algorithyms and all that.. |
I've heard this before, but no one ever tells me my tracks sound thin or Reason-ish or whatever, and I don't rewire. But the sound engine is different, that's why it's so CPU effective. I'm still not sure if I would hear the difference when doing a rewire... |
send me one of your tracks as a reason file....ill show you the difference.
and as for there being no lfo or high pass.....jeez..open ya eyes..... to be honest thought the quality of the filters suck..you can always tell if someones used the reason filters.
i luv the program, its quick and intuitive......but its got its drawbacks sound wise.....and to be honest..if you cant hear it maybe you should compare your mixdowns to some of your cds on a half decent pair of monitors. just listen.....several times.
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05-08-2005 03:07 |
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FL Studio won the Computer Music Reader Awards for the second time !
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yknow the thing that really annoys me about comp music and future music is that they never really say ANYTHING they review sucks......i guess its not suprising as they get paid to do it.....and i suppose if they slated anything then they might lose the revenue they recieve from a companies advertising.....hmmmm....
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05-08-2005 03:12 |
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People argue that the sound quality in Reason is less than that of Logic and Cubase etc. but this is more down to the producers skill rather than the programs they use. . |
not entirely true---reason's sound engine IS inferior to most others, which is why all the bigger names who do use reason always rewire into logic or cubase or something else, cuz reason by itself does sound 'reason-ish' in sound quality...has to do with the algorithyms and all that.. |
If you use ASIO
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06-08-2005 07:46 |
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Halph-Price
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yea, trackers are used often enough.
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06-08-2005 16:39 |
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Well not to sound like a sales Rep for Image-Line or anything, but what is it about FL Studio that turns alot of people off? Maybe I'm missing something. Like what can other programs do that FL can't? I'm kinda curious.
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06-08-2005 16:55 |
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Halph-Price
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it's called FRUITY loops, HELLLO!
but no sieriously it does sound better than reason, but there's still a lack of intergration with the stepsequencer and the music arranger, you have to work all in blocks at a time, and there's no subtle tweaking for the song, unless you record it all into one long piano roll.
this piano roll is not displayed on the music arranger is not displayed.
the software tat comes with it is not that great, like sculter and such, and the multi sample, velocitve sensitve, smapler for logic are some prime example, along with beautiful sounding effects.
oh and the freeze option in logic also. there's also a more complete interface with imputs and vocal recording which FL does not have.
in short there are a few short coming with fruity loops, but for purley programing in ever note, it's god send. the looping aspect cut's time down, and the notes are easy enough to place.
logic is for people that can play isntruemtns, in short, musicians. the rest are just pretenders.
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06-08-2005 17:14 |
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Bobby Dangerous
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Logic is the programmers program.
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07-08-2005 05:04 |
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Bobby Dangerous
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Cubase = It was deisnged on an atari so if it has been around that long then the designers @ Steinberg have to know whats going on. |
I believe many people, including Roni Size and Photek, still use the old Atari computers. 
Just goes to show it's not what you've got but how you use it. |
Well yeah but also that midi is directly connected into the atari computer.
I think ray keith uses it too.
But all of roni's stuff is probably done in pro tools now.
I know it is mastered in pro tools
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07-08-2005 05:06 |
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Logic is the programmers program. |
i had a try and it was sooo frickin hard to get into...with most programs you can just start making sound and learn along the way, in logic, i feel like i need to buy a book on it before i even touch the damn thing. of course, it's true that it's the most comprehensive program out right now. it pretty much touches down on everything. intimidates me too much tho.
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07-08-2005 23:24 |
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Bobby Dangerous
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Logic is the programmers program. |
i had a try and it was sooo frickin hard to get into...with most programs you can just start making sound and learn along the way, in logic, i feel like i need to buy a book on it before i even touch the damn thing. of course, it's true that it's the most comprehensive program out right now. it pretty much touches down on everything. intimidates me too much tho. |
And you so you should read.
pro tools, cubase, and logic are designed around the theory use of a console.
Read about it.
It's all about quality not quantity like most people with loops and reason.
Just pump out as many tracks as you can.
Once you use use those and get used to it you will breeze through it like loops or reason.
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08-08-2005 06:03 |
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BigFire
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real studios DO NOT use reason and fruity loops |
No, they don't, and they don't have to. Real studios are very happy and call me professional when I bounce my Reason tracks to 24/96 audio and give them on CD. So They don't have to use Reason, and I don't have to use Pro Tools (coz they don't use Cubase either, in the studio where I go)... |
Good to hear this.
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16-08-2005 01:58 |
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Blackjack
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I've seen a lot of people mention cubase & reason on here, how easy are they to use?
I started out with f'loops about 2 years ago, and i bought ableton live 4 at the start of '05.
Live is probably the most versatile sequencer/arranger/recorder/dj tool on the market at the moment. It allows for live audio manipulation, doesn't eat up too much cpu (not on my laptop anyway) and supports vst plugins & audio units (mac)
Its a hell of a lot easier to work than f'loops, and i'd reccomend this to anyone looking to upgrade. I picked it up for about 250 quid, and it's a solid investment.
Does anyone else on here use live?
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