 Why not use better software? |
Bobby Dangerous 
Cool Tourist
Registration Date: 27-07-2005
Posts: 33
Helpfulness rating:
 |
|
I understand that some people use reason then some poeple use fruity loops then some people use reason why not use cubase or logic or pro tools.
These are the intustry standards and i know that some people are too damn lazy to learn new software but it is the professional way to do things because real studios DO NOT use reason and fruity loops. Reason is just a plug in for sure uin my eyes. Don't get me wrong i learned off of it but it's not what you should stick to. If you want to advance start using a software that has wav editing/audio intergraded into the software.
DO IT NOW!!!!!
|
|
|
31-07-2005 03:49 |
|
|
Darkside
Old-School Rolla
Registration Date: 02-01-2005
Posts: 620
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
stick to what works for u...
i just use a studio-esque program and a wave editor side by side.
plenty of people here use cubase anyway, a few use logic.
some people are just more comfortable with stuff.
i'm really cool with fruity, it's never had problems for me. except the damn name.
|
|
|
31-07-2005 04:40 |
|
|
optikal_assassin
|da jungle snipa|
Registration Date: 18-07-2005
Posts: 582
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
| i'm really cool with fruity, it's never had problems for me. except the damn name. |
yeah i feel the same lol. By the way, why is it some individuals put that "Why not upgrade to pro tools or cubase because professional studios don't use FL Studio and Reason" out there? As far as I'm concerned, who is really gonna care what is used to make your tracks. You think when people listen to tracks they sit there th ewhole time going, hmmm, you know, this sounds a little FL'ish or Reason'ish. I know I don't. I think the reason why people say go pro tools or cubase is because they buy in on the professional hype, that if you don't use these tools then you're just an amateur or using kids toys. I also feel these individuals that make these comments haven't taken enough time to use other tool enough to graps their full potentials. Sure you get what you pay for in some instances and yeah some programs may have better quality as far as sound goes, but what it boils down to is what you work best with and not just what everyone thinks is the best because of the name or how many knobs and features it has. Personally I use FL studio and that won't change. I don't feel bad towards other programs, just FL is what I started with, grew comfortable with, and use to this day. BTW, why does it seem like some people ar ein this competition to have better hardware or software, isn't it about the music and loving it. Feels like a damn car race sometimes, worrying about what the other guy has under his hood and trying to have a major upgrade battle. As a last note, any program you use, i'm a firm believer you get out what you put in. Every program I'm sure can sound as good as the next, just alot of it boils down to talent and experience.
__
Jungle Snipa on MySpace
This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by optikal_assassin: 31-07-2005 05:08.
|
|
|
31-07-2005 05:04 |
|
|
Arkitekt
Brain Fried Amen Bastard
Registration Date: 13-06-2005
Posts: 1,028
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
Ive tried a lot of the progs, logic cubase sonar FL Acid and i keep going back to reason ... its what im comfortable with .... and it works for me ...
ez
__
VIRB
DARKLAND144
DARKLAND115
|
|
|
31-07-2005 06:03 |
|
|
cynik
Cp6uja
Registration Date: 15-03-2005
Posts: 5,646
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
oh no, yet another of those reason/fl hating topics where youre gonna put links of famous producers who say the programs suck etc etc. 
whats the point? I fully backup said answers, do whatever suits you and most of all - have fun doing it. its supposed to work that way
btw have you heard of rewiring? put any of the two rewired to cubase/logic/etc. through some quality equipment, youll never say those words again 
__
https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves
|
|
|
31-07-2005 10:09 |
|
|
Surya
The Robot
Registration Date: 04-11-2002
Posts: 11,238
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Bobby Dangerous
real studios DO NOT use reason and fruity loops |
No, they don't, and they don't have to. Real studios are very happy and call me professional when I bounce my Reason tracks to 24/96 audio and give them on CD. So They don't have to use Reason, and I don't have to use Pro Tools (coz they don't use Cubase either, in the studio where I go)...
__
"In dnb you should make people jump not swim"
- Pieter Frenssen 2004
|
|
|
31-07-2005 12:09 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
er...yeh cause pro studios dont use reason....... 
wakey wakey dude....YOUR WRONG!!!
ok they might not use it on its own but they do use it.....can you spell rewire........and to be honest....if we are talking real pro here....then logic and cubase arent any where near a full pro tools rig or digital performer. but they are quite capable of churning out pro quality audio........it aint what u do its the way that you do it. and as an example i suggest you check out the prodigy - always outnumbered never outgunned - all sequenced in reason and then bounced into pro tools......the production quality is next level.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 31-07-2005 16:19.
|
|
|
31-07-2005 14:24 |
|
|
Arkitekt
Brain Fried Amen Bastard
Registration Date: 13-06-2005
Posts: 1,028
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by MUNKI C
er...yeh cause pro studios dont use reason.......
wakey wakey dude....YOUR WRONG!!!
ok they might not use it on its own but they do use it.....can you spell rewire........and to be honest....if we are talking real pro here....then logic and cubase arent any where near a full pro tools rig or digital performer. but they are quite capable of churning out pro quality audio........it aint what u do its the way that you do it. and as an example i suggest you check out the prodigy - always outnumbered never outgunned - all sequenced in reason and then bounced into cubase......the production quality is next level. |
werd
__
VIRB
DARKLAND144
DARKLAND115
|
|
|
31-07-2005 16:02 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
|
yeh i made a mistake there.i meant bounced into pro tools as you can see by the edit
|
|
|
31-07-2005 16:19 |
|
|
Halph-Price
Zombie Algorithm
Registration Date: 22-12-2004
Posts: 6,160
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Bobby Dangerous
I understand that some people use reason then some poeple use fruity loops then some people use reason why not use cubase or logic or pro tools.
These are the intustry standards and i know that some people are too damn lazy to learn new software but it is the professional way to do things because real studios DO NOT use reason and fruity loops. Reason is just a plug in for sure uin my eyes. Don't get me wrong i learned off of it but it's not what you should stick to. If you want to advance start using a software that has wav editing/audio intergraded into the software.
DO IT NOW!!!!! |
i am going to school for production/engineer. this school is extremly up-to-date and cutting edge because every last instructor is currently working in the industry. they desgien what shall be taught, and every single one of them are expeirnced and amazingly reputable.
i shall learn:
LOGIC
CUBASE
PRO TOOLS
REASON 3.0
(so you didn't miss it i underlined it)
all of these in the sperate, in house, recording studios.
SECONDLY, there isn't a single thing i use that is industry standard. anything that is, is insanly cost, whether it's a compressor, a mixing board, an EQ, or the goddamn computer i am on.
i run a PC, the industry uses MAC, but the rest of the world uses PC. that's the biggest barrier to having anything industry standard. Logic 7 is for MAC ONLY, and nobody except design COMPANIES, use MAC'S. nobody else does.
THIRD, FL is easy to use and REASON sound great. there only a few hundred dollers.
FOURTH.
how much is pro tools or logic? a litte bit more let's say....
now tell us how much a year you make from your experince in "the industry"?
__
This post has been edited 7 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 31-07-2005 16:55.
|
|
|
31-07-2005 16:34 |
|
|
TechDiff
Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog
Registration Date: 14-06-2005
Posts: 1,028
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
I think that Fruity Loops and reason are both very good programs, and both more than capable of producing good quality sounds. However Logic is extreamly good too but the amount of money you can pay for it is stupid. One guy I know is spending nearly £300 to upgrade from 6 to 7.
People argue that the sound quality in FL and Reason is less than that of Logic and Cubase etc. but this is more down to the producers skill rather than the programs they use. Its not as if every tune made with Logic is amazing and every tune made with FL is shit. Thats like a bad workman blaming his tools.
I think the ultimate solution is to discover for yourself. What programs you find easier for different tasks. I personally use FL for basic sequencing, Reaktor for sound design, logic for sampling (ESX24 is stonkingly good) and for mastering too. These are what I find each program best for but that is down to the way I work. I do think that sticking to one main thing is good for churning out tunes but bad in terms of experimenting and making every tune different from the last.
Back to the quality issue, I cant understand how people can thin that the same synth running out of Logic sounds better than the same synth running out of FL. That is like saying that you can tell the difference in sound between 2 midi controling keyboards! I agree with the argument that Logic effects are much better than FL and Reason effects. But there are hundereds of good sounding and high quality pluggins out there.
I beleive that Fruity is thought of as a toy because of its apperance and not because of its sound, It sounds exactly like everything YOU put into it, no more, no less.
|
|
|
02-08-2005 11:37 |
|
|
Halph-Price
Zombie Algorithm
Registration Date: 22-12-2004
Posts: 6,160
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
run a .wav file and listen to it, than render it through fl, regardless of the volume down that bit, it looses a bit of highen and , well it just sounds fatter.
there is a difference, but it's a sonic imprint sort, not a quality sort.
__
|
|
|
02-08-2005 15:21 |
|
|
Bobby Dangerous
Cool Tourist
Registration Date: 27-07-2005
Posts: 33
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
You are not reading what i initially said.
And cubase has been out longer then pro toold and there is software better then pro tools but i will leave it to yall to find out.
Do some reading.
Cubase was deisnged and built on atari computers.
It's been out a lot longer.
Pro tools is brand new man.
|
|
|
04-08-2005 00:36 |
|
|
optikal_assassin
|da jungle snipa|
Registration Date: 18-07-2005
Posts: 582
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
Sorry to jump in this conversation again, but why is it everytime people get on the subject of what's better it automatically turns into a huge battle over what is supposedly the best program. Everyone here says, use pro tools, use cubase, use logic, thats what the professional studios use, well the bottom line is, i don't think anyone in here is generating six figure paychecks from there music. Not everyone has the big dollars to spend on the dream hardware/soft setup and that's why we go with the less expensive alternatives. Everyone has their opinions and that's fine, but why does the whole professional topic have to be forced onto people? And if my memory serves me correctly, I remember an article about some "PROS" using FL studio as part of their creations. Tommy Lee being one of them. Here's a page I found off the FL Studio web site describing the "Professional" uses that FL studio has found ---> FL Studio Power User Page. So the bottom line is I think people need to spend less time arguing about what's the best to use and just do what we enjoy the most and just produce the music we love. It's going to be a never ending battle that is rather pointless. And sure I may just piss off some with my opinions and I'm sorry, but it does seem like a rather pointless argument.
By the way GLS, I put a direct link to that page you was talking about and that's why I thought to mention it again. I've seen that page a long time ago and it just seemed appropriate to point it out again.
__
Jungle Snipa on MySpace
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by optikal_assassin: 04-08-2005 13:11.
|
|
|
04-08-2005 13:09 |
|
|
|
|
FL Studio won the Computer Music Reader Awards for the second time !
nuff said!!!! Ha ha ha! Kidding guys, I use Reason and Protools. I use Reason as a Plug In as it should, but whatever floats your boat and works is cool.
__
my sound
|
|
|
04-08-2005 18:19 |
|
|
|
!!
