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Nick ZZ 
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Please check out my new track 'Graphology/Graphers Edit 6' and post your comments here!!!
For anyone who stuck around and endured for the edits of this track I apprecite it alot! I did some more trimming on sounds and brought my drums out by cutting the kicks at 40Hz and boosting them at 300Hz. I also did a 270 partial cut on the snares and I also chopped one of the drums at 3:53, thanks Equipped for your advice and motavation! Thanks again Surya for the dope samples that you can find in the sample page, and sorry for posting this track so many damn times, I just want it to be the best I can do. Z
This track has been deleted because a new version is available
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29-07-2005 23:49 |
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what up Nick, hey man, don't feel the need to worry about being a pain in the ass with positing these man, it's the only way you's gonna improve man. Anyhow, with the track man, the intro has some good sounds, but needs to have a little more going on. Not sure what else, maybe some unusual hihats work. I've always liked having some kinda hihat pattern going down in the intro, just to add a lil to intro. I was kinda disappointed with the drop tho, especially right about 1:10 man, when you started building up for the drop, then it just lost total blast off power when the drums kicked in. Bass is tricky to work with man, especially when trying to find the right combination between the bass and breaks without having to sacrifice either one. The bass wasn't bad, it was hittin', just thinking maybe a lil' more boost in the 30-40 range on the low end would make it hit a bit more. Breaks are nice punchy, just think they could use a faster more complex rhythm, which ties back into saying the drop was lacking. Not too complex, just more changeups and shifts. You got some good sounds tho man, i think with alot of the samples you have on hand, you could make a killer stormer with more time spent on it. Just use the samples more, hell even try and make new sounds out of the samples and fill in the voids of the track man, you got alot of room to play with for more sounds. I think for this particular track also, the breaks are gonna make it or break it. Maybe some more synths with a wild ass melody could add a new depth here as well. Hell, actually as I keep repeating the track, and listening to the samples you got man, I'm already getting ideas on what could be differen. It's definitely progressing well, but needs more. All in all, it's lookin' good, if you plan on working it more man, I'd like to see how it progresses and hope all my babble made sense lol. Keep it real. 
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by optikal_assassin: 30-07-2005 07:16.
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30-07-2005 06:48 |
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Nick ZZ
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Originally posted by optikassassin
what up Nick, hey man, don't feel the need to worry about being a pain in the ass with positing these man, it's the only way you's gonna improve man. Anyhow, with the track man, the intro has some good sounds, but needs to have a little more going on. Not sure what else, maybe some unusual hihats work. I've always liked having some kinda hihat pattern going down in the intro, just to add a lil to intro. I was kinda disappointed with the drop tho, especially right about 1:10 man, when you started building up for the drop, then it just lost total blast off power when the drums kicked in. Bass is tricky to work with man, especially when trying to find the right combination between the bass and breaks without having to sacrifice either one. The bass wasn't bad, it was hittin', just thinking maybe a lil' more boost in the 30-40 range on the low end would make it hit a bit more. Breaks are nice punchy, just think they could use a faster more complex rhythm, which ties back into saying the drop was lacking. Not too complex, just more changeups and shifts. You got some good sounds tho man, i think with alot of the samples you have on hand, you could make a killer stormer with more time spent on it. Just use the samples more, hell even try and make new sounds out of the samples and fill in the voids of the track man, you got alot of room to play with for more sounds. I think for this particular track also, the breaks are gonna make it or break it. Maybe some more synths with a wild ass melody could add a new depth here as well. Hell, actually as I keep repeating the track, and listening to the samples you got man, I'm already getting ideas on what could be differen. It's definitely progressing well, but needs more. Actually, if you really didn't mind sharing the track samples, i'd love to take a stab at putting a new spin on this. If you don't mind of course. All in all, it's lookin' good, if you plan on working it more man, I'd like to see how it progresses and hope all my babble made sense lol. Keep it real.
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None of it is babble, I made some synths in PRO53 and layered them with a highs and lows, after taking them out an changing the sounds a million times I liked the track a little more sparse and without them. For this version (edit) I don't think there will be Trix MC-ing over it, he liked the half hip-hop very long intro kinda feel, but I think 300BARS HIP HOP Then DnB is not my thing. (Whole diff. monster) I am making the beat so my friend can MC over it and put it on an album. I just wanted to use a little creativity and put how I felt into it. Z
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30-07-2005 11:45 |
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Dude that was some awsome drum work, I feel like theres too many people killing the amen so its time to switch it up and u did it. Great track, maybe some fine tuning on the eq level but al and all Sick Sick Sick!! Big UP!!!!
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31-07-2005 19:26 |
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Nick ZZ
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Originally posted by realrocksound
Dude that was some awsome drum work, I feel like theres too many people killing the amen so its time to switch it up and u did it. Great track, maybe some fine tuning on the eq level but al and all Sick Sick Sick!! Big UP!!!! |
I agree with you 100%, one of my friends listened to the track and told me it's lacking and I asked what I needed other than the vocals we are still working on and he said AMENS... There are Hundreds of MILLIONS of drum patterns out there! Please check these out! It's a gold mind and I hope to see more artists expanding and using the diff dope as samples. Z
THE BEST BREAKS EVER
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01-08-2005 08:21 |
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Nice intro.
(everybody here seems to be capable of making nice intro's, why don't we all go posting stuff on some ambient-forum??)
Helicopter is nicely panned.
Graffiti samples+trainstation stuff = very grafic,
Sub is good, but it can go even deeper, you're somewhere around the 250hz area, you can go down to 60-80 or something
Drops too quiet, i thought a killer monster would bust out of my monitors but it got stuck not halfway there.. 
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It struck me that the volume of the 4 bassstabs just before the drop are louder than the actual drop, needs to be fixed.
Kicks come out clear but they lack a bit of impact (try a good sub layered with a 808 kick?), snare could use some extra punch
Nice fx, stereo-usage + panning and little variations all the time, but the beat could use extra pepperoni.
But NICE TRACK ANYHOW.
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01-08-2005 12:32 |
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Nick ZZ
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Originally posted by Soi
Nice intro.
(everybody here seems to be capable of making nice intro's, why don't we all go posting stuff on some ambient-forum??)
Helicopter is nicely panned.
Graffiti samples+trainstation stuff = very grafic,
Sub is good, but it can go even deeper, you're somewhere around the 250hz area, you can go down to 60-80 or something
Drops too quiet, i thought a killer monster would bust out of my monitors but it got stuck not halfway there..
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It struck me that the volume of the 4 bassstabs just before the drop are louder than the actual drop, needs to be fixed.
Kicks come out clear but they lack a bit of impact (try a good sub layered with a 808 kick?), snare could use some extra punch
Nice fx, stereo-usage + panning and little variations all the time, but the beat could use extra pepperoni.
But NICE TRACK ANYHOW. |
Appreciate your review and advice. I will work on some of the things you mentioned, the Drop I am not so worried about, we did a session at a studio and layed some vocals over the track, with the vocals it worked out with the drop being a little more on top. we just need to go back and effect the vocals and work on a few other things(adlib). I will post the track once we fix the vocals a little. I asked Trix (MC) and he said he had no problems sharing the vocals/samples as long a people mentioned the source and kept to the orginional theme. Z
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01-08-2005 12:46 |
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this really ain't my kinda thing but i have to say i dig you grafitti samples
(always liked to hear marbles clack in a montana spray can 
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edits on the drumz are cool but like as soi already mentioned ,
the stabs is louder then the drop to bad tough
it's got some good ideas in it but for my personal taste it's a bit to calm
nice work anyway 
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