drumnbass.be forum » Drumnbass scene » Drum-n-bass massive » Why are we underground obsessive? Why are we underground obsessive? Author Post dubcupboard Producer Registration Date: 16-05-2005 Posts: 78 Helpfulness rating:  Been thinkin about the bigger picture such as drum n bass in general and the underground aspect of it all. I can think of my own reasons for drum n bass being underground But I get annoyed when it all gets a bit militant Like - Whats wrong with drum n bass crossing over into mainstream? Why do only a select few get chart pushes - like shy and t power If they can do it - can't we? And why do we all moody each other off with comments like: sell-out, thats a non judgemental comment relating to any of us here by the way! Be interested in getting some other thoughts, comments etc Can't be just me that notices all this kak going on! Heres one to think about. when 'shake your body' hit the dex It was'nt the heads that cleared the dancefloors!! __ dubcupboard 26-07-2005 02:13 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  i kinda like the exclusive ness of it al ... at least from a dj/producer standpoint. I loathe a lot fo main stream music, mostly because al of it is garbage, and the other thing is i hear it EVERYWHERE! and thats not something i want DNB/JUNGLE to become. __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 26-07-2005 02:28 Darkside Old-School Rolla Registration Date: 02-01-2005 Posts: 620 Helpfulness rating:  well you make music to please your audience right? you should, at least. and dnb producers have a lot more ease producing for people they know that are gonna be down with their stuff at the drop of the beat...instead of someone who's gonna have to be eased in with vocals, more poppy melodies/structure and the like. and sometimes when producers try to go mainstream with an underground style *cough* kosheen *cough* excuse me. they change. and theres other things too... in some places, the united states for sure, art is becoming really, really controlled. the war against sampling and all that...so thats why we want to stay underground over here. and almost the only way to get average people to listen to dnb in the US is to rap in it. 26-07-2005 02:59 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  FUCK MAINSTREAM! __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 26-07-2005 03:29 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by dubcupboard Whats wrong with drum n bass crossing over into mainstream? Well, simply that it changes the music in a way that I DON'T LIKE AT ALL... And the party crowd changes with it. Last night was like invasion of the Barbies. Fuck that! __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 26-07-2005 13:41 @1$-) unregistered well decoder and substance did really fuck up when they created kosheen, and sold over a half million records and lined their pockets. must be such a shit life having a fuck off big studio with the latest gear to make whatever tunes you like in whatever style you like in......... hmmmm.....anyone who says they would turn down the oppurtuninty to sell a load of records is talking from their testicles!!! wake up call people.....dnb is not underground anymore, it hasnt been underground since about 1996/97.....it gets played in main stream clubs right around the planet....this thing is global, just look at the number of websites arround and the number of members they have, why do you think your 14 yr old bother (for example!) knows what it is!?!?!. why do you think pendulums album will chart??!?!? it sellls because it has an audience....how can anything that has a global audience be classed as underground......in fact.define underground for me .....ok it does bring a bunch of barbies into the clubs....but yknow success has its drawbacks.....just slam on some dom n roland and theyll all run for the chillout room anyway. dnb is mainstream, im not talking madonna or britney mainstream.....but there is a reason why many of the labels are subsidiaries of big companies (prototype recordings - grooveriders hard and dark/dirty etc etc label - owned by that global piece of scum known as SONY ) 26-07-2005 15:00 Greyone Master Producer Registration Date: 01-04-2005 Posts: 6,285 Helpfulness rating:  Yeh when it comes to mainstream , dnb gets fucked up . Remixes and all that to make it public atractive and so on ... fuck that. Then the real core of dnb dissapears and the pop's left. ...anyway that's my opinion. 26-07-2005 15:05 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  I think drum and bass will never reach such mainstream heights as techno, house, the rest.. it's bpm is simply too fast for the majority death/speed metal and grindcore never became mainstream too. lol __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 26-07-2005 15:21 KoFFiE Easy Player Registration Date: 28-04-2003 Posts: 891 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by cynik I think drum and bass will never reach such mainstream heights as techno, house, the rest.. it's bpm is simply too fast for the majority death/speed metal and grindcore never became mainstream too. lol One word: UK... __ Sleep is a poor substitute for coffee 26-07-2005 16:33 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by KoFFiE quote: Originally posted by cynik I think drum and bass will never reach such mainstream heights as techno, house, the rest.. it's bpm is simply too fast for the majority death/speed metal and grindcore never became mainstream too. lol One word: UK... thats in fact an abbreviation of two words sorry but I don't get it.. UK what? __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 26-07-2005 17:05 Surya The Robot Registration Date: 04-11-2002 Posts: 11,238 Helpfulness rating:  I think you could say DnB in the UK is like Techno in Belgium... __ "In dnb you should make people jump not swim" - Pieter Frenssen 2004 26-07-2005 17:51 weazel Newbie Registration Date: 03-07-2005 Posts: 7 Helpfulness rating:  edit by thechronic: offensive post removed 26-07-2005 17:55 @1$-) unregistered the only thing weazel is right about is the fact he says the underground doesnt exist....that and the bit about it being fashionable. but the rest of is it just looking for an argument..... yes we make music with computers....but so did most of the people back in the beginning..ever hear of an atari...or an amiga.... 26-07-2005 18:01 weazel Newbie Registration Date: 03-07-2005 Posts: 7 Helpfulness rating:  yes i heard about atari and amiaga nad i still have my atari 1040 st and amiga 500 and i used them both for midi sequencing, the timing of atari is rock solid and i will use it again when i set up the hardware studio again, i was talking about crappy pc audio and crappy virtual instruments, you can't beat the real thing. munki c. 26-07-2005 18:13 @1$-) unregistered well. dude if we cant beat the real thing....then lates hear some of your tunes... and when was the last time you checked out some top quality soft synths run out of a decent soundcard....1998???? wakey wakey sunshine......things have changed. 26-07-2005 18:30 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by weazel you are all fucking morons! Dood Go fuck yourself.... quote: MAINSTREEM RULES!!! read above statement quote: and feed your children if you have any. Full time job. Thanks mate ... I think you are a little dissallusioned with the whole thing. And the shit part of it is that you probably dont have a leg to stand on. There is still an underground in the greater DC metro Area, and to places beyond. I also think you are a fool. Copying while not innovative does lead to the basic foundation and building blocks of what you need to be a good producer... Im not sayin that you should just copy copy copy. Learn what you need to know and THEN go off and be inovative.... ez __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 26-07-2005 20:39 Arkitekt Brain Fried Amen Bastard Registration Date: 13-06-2005 Posts: 1,028 Helpfulness rating:  __ VIRB DARKLAND144 DARKLAND115 26-07-2005 20:41 @1$-) unregistered anyway...speaking of mainstream cheese..anyone heard shy fx new one.....yawn!! and why have sooo many people gone back to using that circles/brown paper bag double bass sound.......even bigger yaaaawn 27-07-2005 02:43 cynik Cp6uja Registration Date: 15-03-2005 Posts: 5,646 Helpfulness rating:  I liked that sound __ https://soundcloud.com/tsai-vidro-voves 27-07-2005 07:40 Muad'Dib Andrejnalin Registration Date: 02-12-2003 Posts: 4,197 Helpfulness rating:  quote: Originally posted by MUNKI C the only thing weazel is right about is the fact he says the underground doesnt exist....that and the bit about it being fashionable. but the rest of is it just looking for an argument..... yes we make music with computers....but so did most of the people back in the beginning..ever hear of an atari...or an amiga.... No, I think the only thing weazel is right is that we are all fucking morons... __ Thinking about becoming an Image-Line/FL Studio customer? Want a 10% reduction in price? Use this affiliate link: http://affiliate.image-line.com/BADEBDG473 There is no such thing without its opposite -Bene Gesserit 27-07-2005 09:36 Pages (3): [1] 2 3 next » drumnbass.be forum » Drumnbass scene » Drum-n-bass massive » Why are we underground obsessive?