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Please check out my new track 'Revolution' and post your comments here!!!

this is a preview. worked a few hours on this one,and some critics would help....

made this track with Reason 2.0 - don´t be too hard with sound critics , my sound system is wack!

it´s a dark one......

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08-07-2005 14:41 Homepage of syneptic
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Over this is still a "amature" sounding track, The intro is far too long, If the aim of the tune is to have a long intro maybe try changing it abit more, make it evolve a little and maybe have tease the listeners with a little bass.

Also try considering that if you are looking to have it released and for a DJ to play it, that it will only be played for 2 - 3 Min at the most, so try and make the Breakdown and the drop the most prominant parts of the tune and put all your effort into making these parts of your tune the best!

Other than that, you show alot of talent, maybe consider moving onto "Logic" or "Pro tools" as Reason isnt all that good for producing Drum'n'Bass, and the sound quality from Reason is sh*t to say the least.

Anyway
Keep it up.

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08-07-2005 16:21
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thanks for review.

reason sound sucks,true,but a friend of mine (psy trance prod.) will "tune my sounds" and i think we can do a lot with my stuff.

logic - so hard,so much work ( i played a little bit with logic but i can do nearly nothing,have to learn it!)

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08-07-2005 16:40 Homepage of syneptic
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lmao @skeptic......reason isnt that good for producing drum n bass??? oooooooook.

i agree the sound quality isnt that good....but thats why you rewire it...... check out cubase sx syneptic....rewire reason to and away you go..you will need some 3rd party plug ins..i advise you check out either waves gold bundle or diamond bundle. and psp mixpack.
if your happy sequencing in reason then stick with it.....the audio architecture in reason isnt very special..but cubase is.....will sound a lot better.
and by the way pro tools isnt really designed to be a reason/fruity loops style sequencer.....its mainly the hard disk version of tape/reel to reel....designed mainly for recording and mixing big chunks of audio.......it wont be no good to you unless youve got the appropriate hardware.

ok now the tune......as for the programing.....yeh not bad...but think about the arrangement a little more....you need to be aware of creating a vibe so that your b line has more impact.....drama is good...light n shade is also good.use it!!
theres some sound which are a little like ye olde casio keyboard sounds......think about checking out some of the newer soft synths..partly for fresher sounds but youll also see a step up in sound quality. pm me if you want my opinion on synths or fx.

generally ok.....not great... but i see where your trying to go
08-07-2005 17:00
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thx.

but reason for drum and bass - why not?

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08-07-2005 17:08 Homepage of syneptic
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Shocked Man what a chunk of thick! From 2:23 on this is a masterpiece! Don't get me wrong structure is superb, track seriously clicked with me after the drop. That synth sound is so dam deep, drum's are pounding, bas is madly deep and evil, That's a really good beat you got going absolutly loved your drum's! That big synth sound is really heavy, dug it man, mabye try and beef it up a bit with a little reverb. Hell of a pounding track indeed Bigup , cheer's++Stu Maggoo++P.s. Didn't mean that it literally clicked, meant that I really liked the style. Cheers.

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08-07-2005 17:10
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thx.

but reason for drum and bass - why not?


......reason is quite capable at making dnb.....i was disagreeing with skeptic.
08-07-2005 17:18
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yeah-got you. i wrote that to skeptik Big Grin

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08-07-2005 18:03 Homepage of syneptic
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yeah-got you. i wrote that to skeptik Big Grin


yeh lmfao.....sorry that was aimed at syneptik not skeptic.....
change ya fuckin names
08-07-2005 19:25
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intro too long imo make it shorter

drums are good programmed, feel like a nailing hammer

nice drum edit at 1:53 but I'm not getting the flanging with fadeout after

the bells-like sounds maybe has too much release?

pretty mean sounds, especially that bass is evil

overall sounds need refinement as in try to bring their vital frequencies out. just attach a couple eq modules and play with them

as structure is concerned theres not much to be done.. just rework those sounds

get a pair of headphones, would be good switching between speakers and them..

oh and thats the uglyest avatar Ive seen lately Tongue

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08-07-2005 20:32 Homepage of cynik
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oh and thats the uglyest avatar Ive seen lately Tongue



changed........

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09-07-2005 13:44 Homepage of syneptic
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thx.

but reason for drum and bass - why not?



Well, in all fairness it doesnt really matter what you use, but with Reason the Sequencing on the drums is quite diffecult. I use reason sometimes when im on my PC, i use it as a instrument in Nuendo, its alot more usefull that way, as the synths in reason are superb and so is ReDrum, but the sound is awfull!!!

Try gettign a hold of a copy of Cubase or Nuendo and run Reason through that as a instrument.

Well id better go my Mrs has just made me breakfast and is moaning at me!!!!! arrrrgggghhh!!!

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09-07-2005 14:02
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nice track mate... nice to hear some one else using reason as well...

ive been using reason 3 for a while having no problems writing drum and bass and i think sound quality is alright compared to other programs... it just depends how much effort you put into gettin your tune to sound the way you want it to...plus every music creation tool out there has its pro's and cons.

there are so many tracks that ive heard live that have been made on reason... its easy too pick out the sounds....

anyway back to the track... nice drum programming works well... bass needs to be a bit deeper.. and the structure at the end is messy but not bad overall... 7/10
09-07-2005 15:03
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thx.

but reason for drum and bass - why not?



Well, in all fairness it doesnt really matter what you use, but with Reason the Sequencing on the drums is quite diffecult. I use reason sometimes when im on my PC, i use it as a instrument in Nuendo, its alot more usefull that way, as the synths in reason are superb and so is ReDrum, but the sound is awfull!!!

Try gettign a hold of a copy of Cubase or Nuendo and run Reason through that as a instrument.

Well id better go my Mrs has just made me breakfast and is moaning at me!!!!! arrrrgggghhh!!!

Skeptik UK


er..well i completely disagree.the synths in reason comletely suck when you compare them to something like absynth or reaktor........and its easy to program beats in reason.....its the most user friendly software about for a beginner, ok maybe ableton is more sensible for noob........I also rewire to cubase sx 2..but i wouldnt dream of using anything in reason except from recycle/dr.rex, redrum and the sample players.....the third party synth vsti that are available make reasons synths look like toys.....like ive said before...its the difference in sound.like the difference between cubase and logic.or an emu and akai sampler.....
09-07-2005 19:13
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Like the drums, the synth is good, like the way you cut the drums here and there to let your synths poke threw a little more. what type of monitors and sound card you have? I like alot the sounds Reason has to offer, but find myself scalping the sample sites if you like I can give you a few... 8/10 Z

I really love your Avatar.... nah just kidding! Tongue

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09-07-2005 21:52 Homepage of Nick ZZ
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quote:
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changed........


is that Saboteur???

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09-07-2005 23:08 Homepage of cynik
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Nice rolling amenz, but they sound a bit thin. Overcompressed a bit too...

Drop: nice stuff, but the sound is horrible. I can hear just enough to hear there's some good stuff in there

I have an idea, send me the reasonfile with all samples embedded, and I'll do the sound for you, just to show you what difference good sound can do for ya track...

So quite good, but the sound REALLY needs work

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19-07-2005 11:17 Homepage of Surya
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Wooow dude nice and creepy intro ... you should have done more with the evil bass dude, has a hardcore vibe man ... wow your drumz sound great with the evil vibe man nice that's some SATAN shit there man ..

The gameboy sounds sound more evil then I would have expected Big Grin haha they sound great ! You created an evil atmosphere there man I really dig it, like some evil shit at some times and now's the time Pleased
The dark synth works together perfectly with the dark bass ..

I like the overall sphere you created, nice dark and evil Burning you should have put some background vocals in it ya know some creepy shit to boost the evilness a little Tongue

8.5/10 nice job, we need more of this !

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19-07-2005 12:26
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thanks......surya,please your mail ad per pm!! would be nice if you would "tune sum sounds"....

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Really cool once it starts going.
26-03-2008 08:22
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