Please check out my new track 'A Government Of Intellectuals (Edit 2)' and post your comments here!!!
This is the second edit, we spent alot of time working on it last night and changed alot and followed the advice from a few other artists. Thanks Munki C, anf0 D, greyone, and Surya. The quality is not half as good as the Wave file, we had to convert it to WMA and then to MP3 to post it, this computer does not recignize wave files.... It's darker, any help is very appreciated... Z
Intro : Nice Build up, atmospheric,
Drums : Definately need some beefing up, with some more hats maybe
Reese: Reese line is nice and dark
Vocals / Soundbytes : pretty good, add to the overall darkness of the track. definately try and work on the drums
Originally posted by cjstyles
Intro : Nice Build up, atmospheric,
Drums : Definately need some beefing up, with some more hats maybe
Reese: Reese line is nice and dark
Vocals / Soundbytes : pretty good, add to the overall darkness of the track. definately try and work on the drums
Hope that helps
Yea been strugling on drums alot to make them punchy as well as low, I know how to do it, but that is not the hard part, I just ordered an M-Audio 8' Sub, hopfully soon I will have the bass response I am desperate for... Don't know if that will improve the drums though... Thanks for the review. Z
i think that the drums can use another layer
it will push the tune forword and makes it more pump'n
the line is way to much repetitive-from 1:30 till the end...only one version of the reese-try to play with it in different variations it will be more intresting and groovy...
the intro is nice-kool sounds from the absynth
try maybe to put even shouts with reverbs or somthn else in the back of the tune...
good luck
pooki
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08-07-2005 10:48
skeptik unregistered
My first impretion of this track is that it sounds like any other "darkside" attempt at a tune. Instead of using bass/hoover samples try moving onto synths, (Absynth, ES1, FM7 etc are all good synths). This way you can manioulate the sound alot better and get a more unique sound. Also the drums just need to be EQ'd properly and then Compressed! this will give you more of a punch to the drums!
Overall it still needs alot of work, i dont want to sound like im only finding the bad parts of your tune but once these factors are sorted then the tune will sound a whole lot better.
first of all drums are nice but change all the hi-hats and add another snare drum to the one you have already but keep the style or pattern of the drums because it sounds good...
lower synths sound nice if a bit dull...
sample makes the tune for me.. cool
and try adding a few sounds in the background to fill the tune a bit..
but still a solid track
Originally posted by 2ginger
first of all drums are nice but change all the hi-hats and add another snare drum to the one you have already but keep the style or pattern of the drums because it sounds good...
lower synths sound nice if a bit dull...
sample makes the tune for me.. cool
and try adding a few sounds in the background to fill the tune a bit..
but still a solid track
Thanks for the review, I went back from the first and added a few extra sounds and changed the patterns of the voices and tried to bring my kick in with a little more punch and I also changed the high hat already. I appreciate your review and advice. Z
Aah when the atmosphere's right , it's a Nick ZZ track !!
Nice improvement.
Intro starts great and their ain't much to complain about.
Nice vocal work man.
You should make your buildups more intenstive and longer too create a maximum drop-effect.
Drums have been improved but they need some changes imo:
-Snare more fat and punchy ( the 'tick' is right , but it needs some heavy punch)
-Kick could be louder too , or layerd , to come out better.
-Rims ? Rides ? You should put those in to fill up the drumloop.
Hats and ghostsnares are allright.
Bassline is awesome but it needs some variation (low /high end) to stay effective. You have an amazing bassline , but i think you should be creative with it , like cutting , fx , new melo's , octave up/down , vst stuff , etc...
But i can't complain about the overall , really , it's a great improvement.
Apreciate ! 7/10
Nice intro. The atmospherics are well thought out. Dont like the bass tone, its good but as soon as you change the pitch the modulation gets a bit silly(an obvious sample of some sort). I think the drums are not too bad. The rythm is nice but the actual sounds are kinda poor. The kick isnt too bad, the crashes are good. But the hats lack any real energy and the snare is limp. I think the hats would benefit from a few drills here and there to give them an impresion of speed and movement. If youve got one, try putting the snare through a bit crusher/reducer. Logic has one,as does Cubase, or I think you can process it in Sound Forge.
The tune could do with a change on the bass line as it gets quite repetetive.
Your sample work is really good, as I said before, the atmospherics work well, And the GB samples are as moronic as he always is.
This could be really good if it wasnt for the drums, I expect your keen to stay away from the classic breaks, but it might be worth giving them a go as they do have a lot of energy and, once sliced up and played with, do become substantionaly different from the originals, while still retaining the energy.
I hope this is helpful, There are some good ideas here, but the execution of them needs some work.
Originally posted by TechDiff
Nice intro. The atmospherics are well thought out. Dont like the bass tone, its good but as soon as you change the pitch the modulation gets a bit silly(an obvious sample of some sort). I think the drums are not too bad. The rythm is nice but the actual sounds are kinda poor. The kick isnt too bad, the crashes are good. But the hats lack any real energy and the snare is limp. I think the hats would benefit from a few drills here and there to give them an impresion of speed and movement. If youve got one, try putting the snare through a bit crusher/reducer. Logic has one,as does Cubase, or I think you can process it in Sound Forge.
The tune could do with a change on the bass line as it gets quite repetetive.
Your sample work is really good, as I said before, the atmospherics work well, And the GB samples are as moronic as he always is.
This could be really good if it wasnt for the drums, I expect your keen to stay away from the classic breaks, but it might be worth giving them a go as they do have a lot of energy and, once sliced up and played with, do become substantionaly different from the originals, while still retaining the energy.
I hope this is helpful, There are some good ideas here, but the execution of them needs some work.
Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it alot! The snare is bothering me also... Well everyone... Still alot I got to work on! Thanks again! Z
Originally posted by greyone
Aah when the atmosphere's right , it's a Nick ZZ track !!
Nice improvement.
Intro starts great and their ain't much to complain about.
Nice vocal work man.
You should make your buildups more intenstive and longer too create a maximum drop-effect.
Drums have been improved but they need some changes imo:
-Snare more fat and punchy ( the 'tick' is right , but it needs some heavy punch)
-Kick could be louder too , or layerd , to come out better.
-Rims ? Rides ? You should put those in to fill up the drumloop.
Hats and ghostsnares are allright.
Bassline is awesome but it needs some variation (low /high end) to stay effective. You have an amazing bassline , but i think you should be creative with it , like cutting , fx , new melo's , octave up/down , vst stuff , etc...
But i can't complain about the overall , really , it's a great improvement.
Apreciate ! 7/10
Thanks Grey, appreciate all the help you are giving, just keep it coming! I am working on the mix of Desturbed, mostly done, I am just waiting on my sub in the mail to do the lows...
Z
cool intro sounds...idd dark..
fucking hate george bush...god damn...
shouldve added sine portamento on the reece...
totaly sounds pretty lo-fi...i think its the bass sample fomr the bass pack..
like the melody..but should be more natural...
1:50 in and im already bored...(i dont mean to be mean, but it is what skeptik said...)
the sounds etc get old quick...also the drums are super weak...needs more than just one layer...thesse sound liek the drums that would go under a main break...
was this made in reason? cause it sounds like it...
the only thing i can say is that...dark dnb is baout variation...ive said this a billion times and so have other people...its all about the variation...
and this track is extremely repetetive with almost no changes all teh way trhough...the first minute might as well be on repeat...(not to be mean, but thats just how it sounds)
agree with skeptik...needs ample ample amounts of work...desptite the quote about repeating...in dnb...you dont repeat over and over again..you repeat some...but its all about the change ups...
some cool sounds and wikked atmosphere...but didnt like this at all..
Originally posted by Surora23
thought id take a listen...
cool intro sounds...idd dark..
fucking hate george bush...god damn...
shouldve added sine portamento on the reece...
totaly sounds pretty lo-fi...i think its the bass sample fomr the bass pack..
like the melody..but should be more natural...
1:50 in and im already bored...(i dont mean to be mean, but it is what skeptik said...)
the sounds etc get old quick...also the drums are super weak...needs more than just one layer...thesse sound liek the drums that would go under a main break...
was this made in reason? cause it sounds like it...
the only thing i can say is that...dark dnb is baout variation...ive said this a billion times and so have other people...its all about the variation...
and this track is extremely repetetive with almost no changes all teh way trhough...the first minute might as well be on repeat...(not to be mean, but thats just how it sounds)
agree with skeptik...needs ample ample amounts of work...desptite the quote about repeating...in dnb...you dont repeat over and over again..you repeat some...but its all about the change ups...
some cool sounds and wikked atmosphere...but didnt like this at all..
sound:3/5
production2.5/5
5.5/10
Hey, no offence taken, I appreciate the advice you have given, I am all about improving! Thanks for your review! Z
crashing break to ride over the top, like a cymbally fast energetic break, just as a second break in the background i reckon that would sound wicked.....
good tune tho i like it
Nice vocal work man. 
Z
