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Why do basses have to be mono , imo the impact of the bass is better with stereo (and eq'ing).
With basses i mean those distorted basses (reeces i guess).
02-07-2005 18:12
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more a throw back tot he days of viynl. they couldn't have stereo bass.

but i guess when you listne to a deep heavy bass in stero on speakers, it conflicts, and the phase can cancle the sound out. were only talking about a 60 hz or so right? doesn't take much to give a phase to that.

this headphones you cn't even notice though.


so you can use the Stero program from PSP, that controls the stereo image for what sounds, and just make the deep part mono, and leave the upper distortion stereo.

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02-07-2005 18:15 Homepage of Halph-Price
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about that stero program ? PSP? where can i find that?
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The bass part of bass sounds much stronger and tighter when mono! Stereo sub sounds muddy...

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Stereo pack by psp

PSP PseudoStereo, PSP StereoEnhancer, PSP StereoController, PSP StereoAnalyser.

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can you use psp to mono just the low freqs and keep the high nice and stereo??

if not what can you use?

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why not produce your tone, as in - layer it? more rewarding and could be better kept "under control" if you know what I mean.

and you don't have to rely on some vst effect either...

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I was using stereo bass sounds, panned 100% left and 100% right... I think there is no significant difference, but it tends to throw sub bass sounds in muddy behaviour... but you can clean this by using a compressor with less attack setting and 3+ db gain.

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yeah subs need to be mono , but the mid/high distorted bass could be stereo... anyway ill keep both of them mono now Wink
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this is what i wanted! basslane

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nice find Bigup

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you can use things like waves, nomad factory blue tubes and psp spatial enhancers to do the same thing......you just narrow the stereo field right down and then lower the volume a little....
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The theory is that with lower frequencies it's harder (or impossible) to tell from which direction they are coming, so this doesn't make it really usefull to have bass in stereo. And is there only one subwoofer. This is for the low frequencies.

If you distort a signal, means this the same as adding higher harmonics to to the signal, so you can't really talk of a low frequency signal no more.
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quote:
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this is what i wanted! basslane
shit, great find reckon. Bigup

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not only can you not tell which direction basslines come from, but in a room with 2 different basslines since the wave is bigger the reverb has a better chance of canlcing each other out because the phase can be out of tune a lot easier.

where ass higher freq since teh cycle of the wave form is higher it's not a problem.


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soo basicly deep bass doesn't like to be in stereo.

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The theory is that with lower frequencies it's harder (or impossible) to tell from which direction they are coming, so this doesn't make it really usefull to have bass in stereo. And is there only one subwoofer. This is for the low frequencies.


Roni Size used to line two of them at parties and do bass panning

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not only can you not tell which direction basslines come from, but in a room with 2 different basslines since the wave is bigger the reverb has a better chance of canlcing each other out because the phase can be out of tune a lot easier.

where ass higher freq since teh cycle of the wave form is higher it's not a problem.


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soo basicly deep bass doesn't like to be in stereo.


Yeah i noticed if the bass is even slightly stereo it sounds much weaker.. especially in my car!

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it's not bad outside at all, and you can do panning by just fading to stereo, but it's just when there's a delay. one of the first things it talks about in live sound is the trouble of basslines.

smaller rooms are total hell because if the hertz of the wave, or cycles per second, equal up to it traveling the rooms length in a single cycle, it cancles it out.

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In many sound systems the sub is summed to mono in the amp rack processors. So if you have stereo sub it can be screwed up at parties, even when played from CD.

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