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Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog
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well.....what a treat.
not so sure about this one baz. u must have pasted about 10 different loops onto this tune then rearranged them into some sort of disjointed pissfest.
try changing the velocities on the samples. this gives drums a much better swing.
i dunno what u used for the synth parts but i have found that any default synth patch generally sounds flat and dull. try using more automation on the synth. for instance run it into a filter and sweep the filter around this will give it much more dynamic.
if this is an early attempt its not bad but overall it seemed like the tune just skitted from one malformed idea to the next. some parts were out of key, others were out of time and in places u managed to do both....
for future referance try building up one 8 bar loop that your happy with rather than simply banging 11 minutes of anything.
find a key signature (a set of notes that all work together) and stick to that.
then u cant fail to at least keep it in tune.
even so im sure u were pissing urself listening back to this....that or crying
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30-06-2005 01:41 |
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no first time trie but.....it was actually the first time i tried cuttin up breakbeats an puttin em back together (so i really did not just put a bunch of loops through each other)
what i did not do is equalise (should have done it i know)
you got some points but don't think your totally right bout the keynotes........fuck key notes
makes the whole thing to dry an boring
an just so you know i ain't trying to make the mainstream thing
i'm to experimental for that
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30-06-2005 15:03 |
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Hetty Jakes Pretentious Cheese Wog
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i realise u sliced the breaks up but the rearrangement was quirky at best....
im not just having a dig for the sake of it. being experimental is one thing but that track simply sounded messy.
'fuck key notes' ????
even the most experimental of music adheres to some sort of structure even if it does sound completely 'keyless'
there is more than just major and minor scales ie. modes and pentatonics which are still technically in key but can create completely different moods.
using a set key is by no means boring and dry thats a sweeping statement and it seems as if ur being alternative for the sake of it without completely getting to grips with the basic structures in music.
u need to at least understand the rules to play around with them.
i wouldnt exactly say im going for a mainstream style either but if u do everything cRaZzYyyY?!!?! just for the sake of it the point can be totally lost.
even the most expert and open minded listener will become lost in the randomness and a track can go from bizarre to plain shite.
i know i mentioned the 8bar loop structure but this doesnt necessarily mean u have to chuck every part in at once....using 8 bars as the basis for repetition build parts over each other and have each grow in intensity that way it maintains a 'mainstream' feel whilst allowing u to build and experiment with a composition.
think theme and variation.
sorry if i was harsh in my first post.
look forward to hearing a reworking of ur track. because the basis is there.
armouredcore
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30-06-2005 16:02 |
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if there's one thing to say bout this track...its that it certainly grabbed my attention. I love the drum sounds. Especially the snare. The bass line is ok but sometimes its just too repetitive and overpowering...i'd mix it down a little.
the second theme withput the bass is also good but the song goes on bit like that and leaves the listener on a cliff hanger. The hihat comes in and implies a long progression but the song imediatly jumps back into another riff. In general...I find the sound a bit jumpy and while this is great in a sense, cos i didn't get bored at all while I listened to it but it also made the song lack a structure.
The vocal sample is excellent and provides a great surprise in the song...nice one!
overall I liked the song. Its original and the drums sound pretty damn cool if u ask me. as always there are things that I would change but in general i really enjoyed it.
thanks 4 the listen
Politix
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finally some appreciation thx dude 
i agree on the bassless part but i'm reworking the track at the time 
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01-07-2005 18:19 |
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Interesting tune, I quite enjoyed the drum loops, although they may be a little off in parts, overall they work well together. The change ups are a little harsh though, break too abruptly.
The synth parts individually work, but at parts don't blend together, although the idea is there, which is great.
I found some parts of the sub a little too over powering, the levels just need to be adjusted, if time is taken on this are, the tune would have a lot cleaner sound to it.
I like to overall break theme to the song, although not a great lover of the "pac man" sounding synth sound. The voice sample is cool :-) funny :-)
If you have a sampler such as kontact, you can take your loops, slice and dice, then add to keys and alter the pitch without changing the tempo, which would help keeping with the bass sub in parts and help the overll flow and theme.
After a while the tune does become a little repetative.
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02-07-2005 18:10 |
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flexelf
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yeah, that song was over at three and a half minutes.
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02-07-2005 22:26 |
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Originally posted by thefunke1
Interesting tune, I quite enjoyed the drum loops, although they may be a little off in parts, overall they work well together. The change ups are a little harsh though, break too abruptly.
The synth parts individually work, but at parts don't blend together, although the idea is there, which is great.
I found some parts of the sub a little too over powering, the levels just need to be adjusted, if time is taken on this are, the tune would have a lot cleaner sound to it.
I like to overall break theme to the song, although not a great lover of the "pac man" sounding synth sound. The voice sample is cool :-) funny :-)
If you have a sampler such as kontact, you can take your loops, slice and dice, then add to keys and alter the pitch without changing the tempo, which would help keeping with the bass sub in parts and help the overll flow and theme.
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thx the sub part really does sound overpowered ,i checked it on my headphones an it was ok,checked it in my car an felt the torture of a soundsystem (wich can allready handle pretty much bass 
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bout the slicing this was acttually the first time i sliced a break up ....
before i just made drums with all kinds of vst's an samples i found
thx for the revieuws so far keep em comin' people
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03-07-2005 13:42 |
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Originally posted by flexelf
yeah, that song was over at three and a half minutes. |
wtf you don't know shit then cuz the tune's got like 4 main idea's putted into it.
an like ......one only comes up at 3 minutes the other at 4.50 next up 5.35 an
last up at 7minutes
you should think for you speak......lol
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03-07-2005 13:47 |
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Originally posted by baz
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Originally posted by flexelf
yeah, that song was over at three and a half minutes. |
wtf you don't know shit then cuz the tune's got like 4 main idea's putted into it.
an like ......one only comes up at 3 minutes the other at 4.50 next up 5.35 an
last up at 7minutes
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No offence, but if you cant accept other peoples opions then you shouldnt post your tunes up.
You have to appreciate that every body is entitled to their opinion, and also it is impossible to write a tune that everyone will like.
If you take criticism on board youre far more likely to improve, where as, if you ignore peoples thoughts and carry on regardless because you know better, then you'll never get anywhere and end up pissing people off.
To reiterate. If you cant take criticism, Dont post youre tunes.
If anything you should be grateful that poeple will A, take the time to listen to your tune. and B, Spare the time to give you an honest opion about it.
Would you rather that people gave you bad reveiws and didnt leave a reason? I'm sure that absolutly everyone on this site has had a bad reveiw, and theyve either ignored it and carried on regardless, or, theyve taken it on board and tried to improve for the next time.
Once more........ If you cant take the criticism, Dont post tunes!
Or you could just play your tunes to mates who will probably tell you they love it because they dont want to hurt youre feelings or they dont know what theyre talking about.
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06-07-2005 19:07 |
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Tonedef
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sorry mate but the part in the middle of the tune sounds like background music off suoer mario on a game boy...
bassline sounds ok if a little overpowering and i appreciate the work you put into your rythms but the whole thing sounds like a mess with no structure in it..
i suggest you go away and study how drum and bass is written.. trust me it will help you out no end...
if you contact me on msn il talk to you about it more otherwise look forward to hearin your next track..
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06-07-2005 19:24 |
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the tumps to quickly from one style to the other and the gaps in the beats need to be filled with somethin like a hat or a reverb. also the bass melodies uve used seem a bit boring for my liking. maybe change the bass sound if u want to keep the melody. this tune lacks a lot of energy but has a lot of potential
keep at it mate
take it ez
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