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Mush mc 
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hey all,
here is something to think about.
When you 're at a party and their is an mc spitting his lyricks, do you pay attention too the lyricks?
Personally, i have a certain amount off rhymes which i can always use. In between i try to bust a freestyle from time to time to keep it all fresh. Guess what i want to know is wether the ravers hear the diffrence between freestyles and other rhymes and if they think its important to freestyle from time to time or more often, ...
What do you think?
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20-06-2005 12:02 |
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20-06-2005 12:08 |
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imo freestyles usually are usually just an more meaningless and bullshit amalgamtion of other lyrics they use normally. but if you mean variation, yeah im all for it, as Friskko said, little catchphrases repeated ad infinitum get well irritating after a while. i can help but pay attention to lyrics, cos they emcee usually has their mike up so loud, and i find it hard to blank out. so yeah, i listen. I think mcees aswell as improving lyrical content, should also work on their "style". i dont like party mcs who just call for rewinds and comment on the music. if your gonna mc, you got to have a certain attitude, you got to have enthusiasm, but a certain restraint aswell.
oh yeah you know im sorry i cant remeber teh names of tehm ones i was on about before. however, for a wel known example of another style of mc i quite like is Codebreaker, you know on "MSX FM" on the GTA III 
I never seen him live tho . . .
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20-06-2005 13:26 |
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lyrical content is less important than good flow and originality while mc'ing dnb live imo.. nobody is gonna pay too much attenton to the lyrics anyway.. and the mc should add something to the show/athmsphere, where the music comes first..
on records it's a whole other deal imo.
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20-06-2005 13:32 |
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Emblem-X
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Originally posted by Emblem-X
lyrical content is less important than good flow and originality while mc'ing dnb live imo.. nobody is gonna pay too much attenton to the lyrics anyway.. and the mc should add something to the show/athmsphere, where the music comes first..
on records it's a whole other deal imo. |
anyway a good freestyle always catches my attention immediatly
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20-06-2005 13:33 |
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@1$-)
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~edit. get over it. pfff
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by utter muppet: 11-11-2007 04:16.
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20-06-2005 17:42 |
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Emblem-X
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nah mc's can really add to a set imo, but not too much f em do so..
check the ltj bukem and mc conrad duo goddamn, conrad really lifts the music to another level imo.
just like mc armanni reign alongside myster mason (that night @ hangar ostend one ruled!!!
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20-06-2005 20:10 |
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Mush mc
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thanks for the replies.
& BTW:
Although i did not have the intention to start a discussion on wether we should have mc s or not it always tends to turn out that way 
hehe
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21-06-2005 14:47 |
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basshead
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hi there mush!
I ve seen u mc ing in decadance and rector
i heard some lyrics that i have on a cd but its nice!
i dont mind at all if its a freestyle
you got nice type off flow
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29-07-2005 12:05 |
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
mcs are a good way to ruin a night out.......i didnt pay money to hear some plonker spitting bad rymes over my favourite tracks......most of them chat complete shit. i dont mind if theyve got something to say but many dont......and they dont shut up often either.....
mcs should do their job and just hype the crowd, and theres no need to do it all the way through a set.......the only advice i would give is study someone like sizzla......top notch mc,ok its not dnb, but many of his tracks sound wicked mixed with it, but he actually makes a point in his lyrics......but to be honest.if i was playing id just pull out the mic lead
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i agree totally
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29-07-2005 13:24 |
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Mush mc
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Originally posted by basshead
hi there mush!
I ve seen u mc ing in decadance and rector
i heard some lyrics that i have on a cd but its nice!
i dont mind at all if its a freestyle
you got nice type off flow
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Thanks a lot man. Always nice to hear when people feel you.
Next time you see me somewhere, just come and say hi
But what do you mean when you say you have some off my lyrics on a cd.
Or did i misunderstand you? because i write my own lyrics so that would be impossible.
@ MUNKI C
I m sorry if you have had nothing but bad experiences with mc s or if you just don t like them; that' s a matter of personal taste.
But i don t think you should be compairing dnb and it s mc s with ragga/dancehall artists like sizzla. Ragga is all about the rythme AND the message while dnb is almost stricktly about rhytme and bass and less about the message.
Also note that loads of rythmes are not even produced by themselves (though capleton and sizzla have done some and can perhaps be seen as exeptions) but become used by almost every dancehall artist, to record their own rhymes on it and so creating their own track.
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02-08-2005 16:51 |
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basshead
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that cd was a mistake
u are the mc on that cd
i did say hi on the party! :wink:
see u next time :p
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02-08-2005 22:31 |
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yeah man i cant stand it wen all you hear all nite is the same rhyme. im a raver i love to bust it out wen the dj is spinin those mad tracks. n da mc is rinsin out them lryics. and yeah i can tel when people r freestylin...
if you cant freestyle i dnt recon tht ur tht special u kno what i mean but i got a mate who just pure freestyles. yeah yeah he has a few pre rehersed to roal out but most of its freestyle and i think you can hav a much beta time with freestyle. bcuz most of the time itz about evry thing around you... and wen im ravin im always tryna listen to thos lryics...
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05-08-2005 16:05 |
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@ Mush MC: yo, i'm a MC to, most of my lyrics are written for hiphop beats,
but me and my cousin mix drum 'n' bass, so we've been recording a few mixes, wit me rhyming over it...
if you have a few tips about how to flow over d'n'b and if you rhyme on calm pieces of d'n'b or also very hard d'n'b...
cuz i'm not familiar wit rhyming over d'n'b,
now i spit a few bars (3-4) over some fast d'n'b and a few shoutings, and when it's a calm moment, i spit a whole verse (10-20 bars).
peace!
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13-08-2005 19:57 |
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Surya
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A lot of MCs seem to miss the point that MCing for DnB is more about hyping up the place than rambling lyrics over everything. But that doesn't mean you should stick to "make some noise" and crap like that...
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14-08-2005 17:42 |
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Mush mc
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hi smoka
Maybe i could give you some pointers about rhyming on dnb but i don t think that it would help you that much since i don t think that i am the most suitable person to do so. But since you ask it so nicely, i ll give it a try
-Wether you rhyme over calmer parts ore the more heavier stuff, that depends on what you find the most suitable and/or what fits you best. This will determine how your mc style will evolve. Chances are, when you become more skilled in spitting over dnb, that you will master a tempo which you can t hold yet today. Meaning that all can evolve while you are at it, also your speed.
-find a dj who s style you like and who is whilling to jam with you. The best sets with an mc are those where the dj and mc know each others style and really feel each other
-practice real hard and a lot: one does not become an mc over night. It takes time and constant efforts to addapt and improve (y)our style(s)
-always try to enlarge your vocabulary. This is best optained by writing your own lyricks and listening to others. listen to them, DON T copy them.
-take every chance you get but always make sure that the people who you work close with can be trusted..
-And the usual shit like: don t talk when the dj is mixing, try not to mc over vocals in a tune, let the music breathe from time to time, try not to be repetitive, keep interacting with the dj and the music (here i mean that you have to keep in mind that you and your dj are to bring ONE vibe, not you spittng a new vibe over his) ...
Now i hope i was off some service.
Good luck to you and maybe you can let us know when we can check you out on a gig?...
(@ Surya: WORD, but as an mc, you have to find a healthy mix cause there are always guys begging for more while others just want to shut you down)
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Surya
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Originally posted by Mush mc
(@ Surya: WORD, but as an mc, you have to find a healthy mix cause there are always guys begging for more while others just want to shut you down) |
Yeah, I know. Had some talks about this with DOC... But I've heard you once and I don't remember you as irritating, so that's a good thing
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16-08-2005 13:48 |
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Mush mc
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Originally posted by Surya
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Originally posted by Mush mc
(@ Surya: WORD, but as an mc, you have to find a healthy mix cause there are always guys begging for more while others just want to shut you down) |
Yeah, I know. Had some talks about this with DOC... But I've heard you once and I don't remember you as irritating, so that's a good thing
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16-08-2005 20:03 |
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smoka
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Originally posted by Mush mc
hi smoka
Maybe i could give you some pointers about rhyming on dnb but i don t think that it would help you that much since i don t think that i am the most suitable person to do so. But since you ask it so nicely, i ll give it a try
-Wether you rhyme over calmer parts ore the more heavier stuff, that depends on what you find the most suitable and/or what fits you best. This will determine how your mc style will evolve. Chances are, when you become more skilled in spitting over dnb, that you will master a tempo which you can t hold yet today. Meaning that all can evolve while you are at it, also your speed.
-find a dj who s style you like and who is whilling to jam with you. The best sets with an mc are those where the dj and mc know each others style and really feel each other
-practice real hard and a lot: one does not become an mc over night. It takes time and constant efforts to addapt and improve (y)our style(s)
-always try to enlarge your vocabulary. This is best optained by writing your own lyricks and listening to others. listen to them, DON T copy them.
-take every chance you get but always make sure that the people who you work close with can be trusted..
-And the usual shit like: don t talk when the dj is mixing, try not to mc over vocals in a tune, let the music breathe from time to time, try not to be repetitive, keep interacting with the dj and the music (here i mean that you have to keep in mind that you and your dj are to bring ONE vibe, not you spittng a new vibe over his) ...
Now i hope i was off some service.
Good luck to you and maybe you can let us know when we can check you out on a gig?...
(@ Surya: WORD, but as an mc, you have to find a healthy mix cause there are always guys begging for more while others just want to shut you down) |
thanks for the info, it cleared alot up for me!
i'm more of a hiphopper, but drum 'n' bass is kinda like my 2nd style (of music)!
tip 3 had me thinking to the intro from wu tang forever: disc 2... (i'm a big wu-fan 
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thanks again!
peace!
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