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PassDa J. 
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Please check out my new track 'Revoldo Capuar' and post your comments here!!!
Yo this is the very first song I post on this site ..
I've made it in an hour or 2 an used Fruity Loops v.3.56 to do it ...
Hope you enjoy it, please be honnest I hope to get better I could still use allot of info ...
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18-06-2005 17:24 |
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broadside
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Wow, after all the build up the infamous Passa D Muvafucking J's first tune has touched down, I feel privilidged to be the first to treview it.
well you said you want honesty. first up, you do need an intro, the tune jumps you way to suddnely. um then also, the beat its original and ok actually, at first it sounded shit, but when you added a bit more complexity it got a lot better.
ther was nothing recongnisable tune wise in the first one minute and twenty seconds, and then you hit us with an ok line, but it has no relevance to what went on b4 imo. and the stuff around 1:40 is pretty awful.
yeah i dunno this is pretty bad, but not the worst ive heard for a beginner. my feeling is that people are trying to run before they walk a lot, you got to have at least some idea of what notes work with what and some knowhow about making m elodies and stuff before you can touch down the more minimal grimey stuff, otherwise its just bred of ignorance and tends to be shit. mre ryhmic variation also needed. no structure at all (ie intro run breakdown build drop run breakdown build drop run outro eg) and not very memorable. also work on your sounds, but that is a long process.
still though i have heard a lot worse so not bad for a start, in some technical ways though. however, for a first time tune, its also pretty uninspired, its like your just aiming for the most anonynous run of the mill stuff, if youre starting out with this shit you should be excited with some fresh ideas, if that makes sense.
anyway decent effort.
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by broadside: 18-06-2005 19:48.
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18-06-2005 19:47 |
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PassDa J.
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Allright, first of all thanks for the review, I know I still need to learn allot about drum'n'bass ... I'm still not sure about my volumes ( Kick louder, Hihat too loud, ... ) And to make up a catchy tune you gotta have experience ... and that is what I don't have, I started with Fruity Loops a few months ago ... in the beginning it sounded awfull ( The first songs you make are the easy ones like techno or even bullshit like most of us do at a time 
) but it will get better and better, that's why I wanted to be a producer here, to get some comments from the big guys ...
Maybe I gotta spend more time on a song huh ( 2 hours ... you can guess 
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Thanks anyway ... PassDa J.
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18-06-2005 19:56 |
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cynik
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ok, the beat is allright, tho the kick needs boost. if that snare has attack, cut it down, but maybe it's reverbated too wet?
sound choice is allright - but there are not enough of them, introduce more
I really dont like any melodies in this one, especialy that higher one going every 4 steps.. really annoying
no classic structure too, feels like a bunch of patterns wildly put together with not much sense
in some parts the elements of your song work together creating some sort of a vibe...
but nothing else happens, gets quite boring really fast, feels unfinished
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18-06-2005 20:00 |
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PassDa J.
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Thanx ... as I said I will put more effort in my next song ...
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18-06-2005 20:01 |
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PassDa J.
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I've also noticed I should have put the kick a bit louder no?????
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18-06-2005 21:08 |
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cynik
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Originally posted by cynik
ok, the beat is allright, tho the kick needs boost. |
guess it's a way of saying that. usually it's found around 100hz so if you use a graphic eq, bring that band up
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18-06-2005 21:13 |
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Darkside
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snare sounds kinda weak...as if it does have too much attack
ah but once other elements come in i realize its actually too loud.
omg i didnt even notice the kick...definitely boost that man.
beat is a lil confused. no real tune structure until 1:20 like broadside said. melody on it is pretty awful...this track is pretty monotone.
extremely boring through and through, sorry to say.
a lot of the sounds you use this are better than sounds i've heard other beginners use on their first tries, though. other than the imbalances in the elements of the beat, you have no really bad level problems. its jus really boring and bland song is all. you need more fx and stuff. try playing around with the beepmap generator in fruity (does 3.56 have it?), it can do some ok dnb stuff, or splurge and get some nice free vstIs.
kicks louder, hats louder, snare quieter, get the bassline melody more interesting, add a nice lead sound to fill up the bands a little, have the atmo changing every once in a while, and give this a more defined structure, is what you need to do.
not bad for a start, but this is still barely average dnb.be wise... keep it up tho, i kno you'll be better in time. just ask us any questions you need to and we'll try to give you a good answer.
deff. spend more time on your tunes...i've taken months on a couple of mine.
5/10
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19-06-2005 03:29 |
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Zippy
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i think the bassline you have with the pad works well, sounds a bit like a Smashin Pumpkins tune. In fact when it drops for the first time i really like this tuen. the beat is ok, def loads more kick tho. the snare needs to 'crack' a lot more. apart from that its pretty bad - compared to other stuff on this site.
when it started i thought this might be ok, the bassline came in and i thought yeh ok, and then it wasnt. the structuire needs sorting big time, and you need some sub bass in it. IMO
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19-06-2005 12:58 |
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PassDa J.
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Thanks dude, really ... I can learn allot from this ...
And I have a new version of Fruity now v.4.52 Maybe it will go better with this one ...
Thanks for the reviews so far ...
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19-06-2005 12:59 |
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lol.....whos ass did you lick to get ya rights
muahahahahahahahah ...only joking...
ok here we go.......ill be gentle.
snare down kick up......i wouldnt start with that electro style pattern....fade it in or use a high pass filter so it doesnt sound so repetitive.....
that stab sounds familiar.....try finding some hi hat samples that roll more.yknow have more swing.......theyll sound better than the rigid programming thing you got going on here.....
bass line is catchy......but repetitive.....try and sync up an lfo with it..then use the lfo to trigger a filter.....will give it a bit more of a fresher more varied sound....
and think about your arrangements a little.....
its ok. keep going.
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19-06-2005 18:11 |
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PassDa J.
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Thanks, I allready have allot of courage for my next song, but I won't work on it today, cause the sun is shining and the weather is SWEET 
C y'all later, thanks for the reviews ...
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19-06-2005 19:30 |
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Stutterstep
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Interesting track. But there are manying elements missing from this one.
Pads, melodey, fxs, ect.
Your should layer almost everything.drums, bass, pad. what ever.
take your time , you can tell this only took 2 hr.
respect
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20-06-2005 05:00 |
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Nick ZZ
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20-06-2005 16:06 |
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since i know where you started at i say it's pretty much of a progress in all ways imaginable.
my advice is clear an simple :- keep workin hard
-snares can be adjusted nicely using fruity by using
the options in the func(tion) section try /echo>>>>>>fat-more detuned 'n start messing with timme offset works nicely for makin breaks
-try using more original buzz generator that are
"dnb-compatible" 
(i mean like find somethin' to give it to em
sttraight bass means bass an no overdisorted
buzzer sound :booze
so like i told you already i think you should try an remake(or finish it properly) this cuz it's got more potential then this........
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21-06-2005 15:05 |
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Arkitekt
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aight her we go... im not one for minimal jungle/DNB
the bas line is truly awful... 
i dont wanna sound mean but it realy isnt anything. your drum work is aight.. it needs something to switch it up more...
that synth in the backround is interesting too bad i can barely hear it (BRING IT UP!!!!)
i think you have a long way to go my friend but your on the right path..
remember more than one bassline, and layer layer layer!!!!!!!!!!
ez
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21-06-2005 19:10 |
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TechDiff
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For a first tune this could be a llot worse, With fruity loops pretty much all of the drum sounds are shit. Your better of getting youre hands on some breaks and cutting them up in the slicer tool, But if youre insistant on programming youre own, original beats a good way to get a really fat snare is with a Bit reducing tool, A good one is the Arboretum "Sonic Decimator" but there are pleanty of other about.
It would also be worth getting your hand on some VSTi's for synths. I love fruity loops but the synths are also shit. the pro 5 or Absynth are both good. But if youre stuck with the Fruity ones for now, layer the synth and either pan each instance hard or detune one slightly for a fatter sound. Also in fruity if you Right click on a control and click edit events you bring up Contoller lane Data. Try automating a filter to give more variation.
Good effort and keep going. For a first tune this aint too bad.
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24-06-2005 01:32 |
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Sykotic
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Well I do not like the background noise, it totally drowns out the kick drum. Bass comes in too soon and doesn't really make too much sense. Drums sound pretty good(aside from levels). Hats sound good. Track needs some structure and background sound has got to go. The little bass change is pretty good, and I like the bass sound just not the way it is used. So work on levels, structure, basic musical principals... can't wait to hear your net one.
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24-06-2005 19:03 |
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