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Surora23 
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Well of coruse you could use the PSP vintage warmer...that shti rocks...
But there is also a clever trcik of recording from your output onto a DAT cassette and recording back...and wula...then fallow up with your mastering... 
you samples and sonds should be nice and warm
woot woot...
Peet actualyl gave me the diea...and spud elaborated more on the DAT cassette...Had a friend do it...it works wonders
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30-05-2005 18:06 |
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Halph-Price
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i hear of some artist, just running it through outboard equpiment, like there mixing board, just to get a bit of grit to it. forget whcih one, but he was a big electronica one.
i tihnk that DAT idea is a good one, that's why they were used and still are...
there's PSP MixSAturator, and stuff, there great, with the valve drives....
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31-05-2005 12:08 |
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i hear of some artist, just running it through outboard equpiment, like there mixing board, just to get a bit of grit to it. forget whcih one, but he was a big electronica one.
i tihnk that DAT idea is a good one, that's why they were used and still are...
there's PSP MixSAturator, and stuff, there great, with the valve drives. but it doesn't addd like any outboard equipment could. there's an idea for a program.
the vintage warmer, is just good for giving some distortion lightly, and bringing levle's up. like saturation. basslines that need some high end, tracks that are too quiet... never found it that good either.
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Surora23
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just because its a DAT doesnt mean you cant get the warmth of TAPE thast being used....the digital name is just something that reffers to teh quality...
Ive heard it used and it apparently works... Wont really know untill we try it ourselves
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31-05-2005 18:06 |
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lol. the DAT thing is bullshit.........digital audio tape is exactly what it says on the tin.
the professional way to do it is to have your stereo signal from your computer/whatever.....sent to reel to reel. then once recorded send it back to your computer for burning. been there and done it......sounds pukka.....can be a little expensive though. loads of peeps use this technique.bassment jaxx, groove armada etc etc. but real warmth can only be achieved with valves......but for fucks sake people!!!!your making dnb, its meant to be cold and harsh.......
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31-05-2005 18:29 |
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I don't think that the DAT thing is complete bullshit. You have to put your signal through analog cable first, and every A/D and D/A has it's own "sound" in a way, so it will definately bring some small changes in your sound. Offcourse it won't be like putting it on analog tape or through tubes, but if you want a little bit of subtle warmth it can work.
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31-05-2005 18:54 |
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Halph-Price
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yea, thoes big old tapes are still used in major studio's so i hear. the old 64 track ones, from the 70 or something... give major warmth.
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01-06-2005 03:37 |
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DAT is digital, no warmth there. Having the signal go through A/D and D/A stages doesn't typically improve your sound at all.
btw Halph, 24 track tapes, not 64 
They are still used a lot nowadays. Every good studio has them. They sound incredibly good on full range signals, much better than any digital system. If I mix electronic music I put most tracks on analog tape (definitely the kick, snare, bass, vocals and lead sounds) before doing the mixdown.
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01-06-2005 08:46 |
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How about putting the signal trough your (tube/valve?) guitar amplifier?
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01-06-2005 09:01 |
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welll the DAT it self might not make it incredible but still it's just running it through the outboard equipment that does it, and with an a/d d/a would keep it sounding good, as a cheap alternative. it wouldn't color the sound as much but would just take away the entirly clean sound the cold sound of digital, during the A part of the D/A
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01-06-2005 11:58 |
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Originally posted by thechronic
DAT is digital, no warmth there. Having the signal go through A/D and D/A stages doesn't typically improve your sound at all.
btw Halph, 24 track tapes, not 64
They are still used a lot nowadays. Every good studio has them. They sound incredibly good on full range signals, much better than any digital system. If I mix electronic music I put most tracks on analog tape (definitely the kick, snare, bass, vocals and lead sounds) before doing the mixdown. |
lol. i luv it when this man proves me right.muahahahahahah 
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01-06-2005 21:00 |
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Halph-Price
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cheap way, not effective way.
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01-06-2005 23:13 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
cheap way, not effective way. |
no such thing........
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03-06-2005 16:15 |
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yeh good way but its not cheap!! and the problem with most mixing desks now is that their about as analogue as darth vader!!!!
and dont get me wrong halph price i luv the psp plug ins......but their no where near analogue warmth.......
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05-06-2005 16:06 |
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
yeh good way but its not cheap!! and the problem with most mixing desks now is that their about as analogue as darth vader!!!!
and dont get me wrong halph price i luv the psp plug ins......but their no where near analogue warmth....... |
and what if u try and find a secondhand mixer from the '80s?
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05-06-2005 17:50 |
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depends on who made it....
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05-06-2005 18:02 |
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05-06-2005 19:20 |
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Originally posted by MUNKI C
for fucks sake people!!!!your making dnb, its meant to be cold and harsh....... |
Hello?
Meant to?
P...lease!
music isn't 'meant to be' anything expect the artists' perception.
When has Spirit or Digital ever sounded cold and harsh?
I think the sound of alot of the nero-funk/tech side of dnb at the moment needs to warm up.
But hey music is subjective and that's only my opinion "for fucks sake"
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