k.c.walsh
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Nosrac 
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"Stu Magoo, a bonny lad indeed,
with a deep, thick track to kick ye right in tha heed!"
Huge deep intro, great string sound and the vibrato synth goes with that perfect - this could go for another 3 bars at least - lovely sounds, but still builds some dark tension. Unique cuts on the amen - gives it a circular sound - not repetitive - kinda like funky african polyrythms. Huge sub as usual - sounds fantastic on my setup. Pauses are a nice touch - still give it that punchy sound when it comes back without disrupting the flow of this track which is more of a deep roller than your other tracks. I like the sharp string hits when the strings drop out and again when they come back in. Great contrast between dark pounding sub lines/amen roller and the strings. The dropout at 1:31 with the MASIVE sub and hip hop beat is a knee slapper!! 
Awesome filter into the atmospheric sounds
- again that part could be extended a bit more. Also lovin' the background sounds like the occassional bongos, the filtery hits at 2:13 and again at 2:34. The pauses 2:17 and 2:27 sound like they stop 1 beat early - maybe on purpose. All in all a fantastic start to this tune. Each part could be extended I guess since its just 2:39 at this point - but otherwise the structure is professional sounding and a superb first atempt at this style. Looking forward to the final version. I can see tons of potential here so 9/10.
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26-05-2005 03:29 |
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Surora23
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interesting intro...amens are a bit thin...boost that kick so we can feel it!!!!!!...nice intro pads...you drop the pads and i lost interest...around 1:10 you di it again..and bring in those weird sounds...didnt liek that...and then you bring the strings back agian... didnt like that...and you loops the amens back in...
Imo this got super repetive super quick...some super cool ideas and sounds but...this doesnt remotely conform to dnb structyre...and sicne you wanted some tips on structure..heres my 2 sents....
First start with a pretty empty intro...run it for anout 1-2 mins...
Then a breakdown...an empty one, only build with some tension...
then a drop...run teh drop for 2-3 mins...a second breakdown and another drop fallowed by an outro...
as for the track...i guess there are some good ideas and sound..but its more a compilation of short bars and sounds...not too musical or anything... i think you ge tthe drift 
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anyway...keep it up...
but i rate it a 4/10 soz
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26-05-2005 04:41 |
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S.O.T.A.
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whats up man ? you have an interesting track. I like the ambience in the beginninlg and the amen I have never quite heard one like it. Your sound effects are cool but your drums could use a little more definition once the track is rollin I mean. Sounds like you could make it pretty ill not really much to complain.
COOL LATER
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26-05-2005 05:15 |
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Victom#1
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Very pro sounding all over, it is really short but I imagine you plan on changing that already. I think a cool thing would be to put a few bassline sections in smart places during the intro; just an idea.
Don't know if I like the hip hop part much. maybe if you worked it to make it feel not so out of place, it could be really sick and make the track more memorable. A few more change ups in the drums and your ready to press. Well done, im gonna check out your other stuff...
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26-05-2005 05:51 |
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dubcupboard
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Feelin' the flo' on this
Nice an chunky
Try the followin' structure
32 bar intro
16 bar brk dwn
16 bar bld up - drop1
64 bar rinse out with variation
32 bar bld up from stripped down version -drop2
64 bar rinse out
And take it from there
Hope this helps!
Dubz.
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26-05-2005 15:11 |
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stickbubbly
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equipped
nice to see you finaly got a track uploaded!
pads sound nice at the start
crazy rythm youve made with those amens. different and hard.
levels sound good. boost the kick
amens sound a bit distorted and light. try boosting the mid freq. and amayby cut some highs off them.
the structure is better but still needs work. let the pads go longer at the start with some of those delayed litte amen hits you did, then bring in a beat, keep the beat resonably simple, then have a build up (with or with out a beat) then drop with your amens, bass and the whole anchelada. that should give you a better intro.
over all the track has a really nice hard feel to it. all the sounds you chose are good.
nice work keep it up!
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26-05-2005 23:00 |
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Surora23
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im sorry but all you gus are are kissing ass jsut because its made with hardware...sorry but teh SOUNDS are nothing special...ive heard just as good sounds if not better made with software...so teh hardware is nothing to brag about...on top of that its extremely boring and has no structure...
no offense to kc walsh for the effort...
but the rest of you guysd reviewing this are full of fucking shit and need to check yourselfs cause if you guys think this is a good track then not a single one of you are going to go anywhere with your music...
kc...keep it up...work on that structure..
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27-05-2005 04:19 |
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cynik
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I agree with Surora here, what are you all peeps hyped about? I mean, the amens arent even cut properly..
speaking of structure.. there is none that classify this as a dancefloor track (I guess it was intended tho)
yeah, the sound is fairly good quality, levels ok, you got it sound punchy so ups for that !
but that doesn't make a track, you need the hooks which will make ppl remember this..
6/10
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27-05-2005 09:48 |
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wreakon
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for a 2 min preview this definitely has potential... although im listening on monitor speakers (the speakers are actually in this lcd monitor, lol)
i thought some parts where kinda empty and the changes a bit sharp and unexpected
drums are cool and fit the mood well... love the strings and atmospheric sounds!
still needs alot more to keep it interesting for 6+ min
good work though! ill look forward to hearing the finished product 
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27-05-2005 09:51 |
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thefunke1
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Nice sounds, very full, and good work with samples using them chopping, and editing them to create some nteresting sounds. Track has potential for sure, and look forward to seeing something more polished and complete.
The track lacks structure, doesn't have the traditional intro, drop, etc... I see there has been some advice on this posted above, as well, in "production asnwer and questions" there are a million topics and links realted to this, you should check them out, they helped me out a lot on the basics. Your ideas are really good, but work is needed in the stucutre for sure, although I assume this is just a snip it of the tune?
Anyway, looking forward for things to come...
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27-05-2005 13:49 |
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Darkside
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strings in the intro are ok. nice fx.
ugg that amen is awful. i understand you were trying to be creative but it don't work. take it out man, take it out. it's like in a hardcore style pattern or something.
structure is sorta weird. ok really weird.
dude i fuckin like the ideas behind this, the strings make me sorta nostalgic for mid-90's dnb, but you jus threw in a lot of random shit, and the structure is all fucked too.
still can't get used to that amen.
dude, if you get ur structure together on this track
throw out the messy hip hop beat (the kick is a little muffled when you first drop it) and your amen patterns, and the random going from this section to that, is this even 4/4 time?
then you could have somethin killer!
but i jus can't stand some of the shit in here.
some of these guys really are kissin ass to you jus cuz you got good sound quality or somethin, i've seen this weird brainwashing goin on on the site for a while now and i'm beginning to get tired of it. people aren't showing respect to people with developed talent who have been workin to get where they are for a long time. it's a newbie revolution, don't become a part of it!
its no offense to you tho man, you seem pretty cool, and at least the ideas behind this track are good.
remember guys GOOD IDEAS are the foundation behind your tracks, not GOOD EQUIPMENT. i.e. don't diss fruity loops cuz i make all my shit with it and it's never failed me, go listen to one of my tracks and watch yourself shut up with the hatin instantaneously, its magic.
sorry, off topic
but anyway, 4/10, structure and amen sux, but don't lose those strings and fx!
peace man
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Darkside: 28-05-2005 04:02.
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28-05-2005 03:19 |
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Surora23
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Well everyone taht has asked me for help ive given...and i talk to people like halph price...peet...spud...darkside...rude...and you can ask all of them..I DONT KNOW EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD....Ill only speek the truth on a track... Ive beena dk for 4 yrs...and a produver for one...
#1 i know structure
#2 i know what the dancelfoor likes
#3 i know waht sounds good...
If you read the front page of this site...We're not here to be best freinds and kiss ass....
It says the Team here is infamous for extremely harsh but helpfull reviews...if you read my review of this track it tells whats wrong...and what to fix on strucute...so before you start spitting out bullshit...lets hear a track form you, that you have full 100% produced your self...and see how much confidence you have...
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28-05-2005 17:55 |
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Rude
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nope your structure is a bit weird, breaks are coming in too soon, I understand you tried to layer, but if you layer firefights or amens or tramens or whatever, don't chop 'm like this...
I like the subs though, gets very repetitive after a while... what's with the ending? fades out too fast...
Now, I listened to it again. Your track is kinda.. empty... your elements are not interresting enough to make people push the repeat button... Maybe add a reece and some vocals... should be nice...
Anyway, you got some silly amens, kicks, snares, hihats, shakers and rides for drums..
that's ok, but try to get a better sound and another pattern...
as for the pad: maybe put some reverb on it...
subs are nice, but erm.. it's not like they're good enough to replace a bassline in a tune.
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28-05-2005 18:17 |
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Nosrac
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I don't think its fair to say people who liked this track are just kissing ass or "praising hardware" (saw no indication that hardware was being used?). This track recieved some good reviews because it is a good fresh sounding song with a lot of potential - it has a unique use of an amen loop that I've never heard before, and an interesting contrast between dark and synthy parts that roll along very nicely in this track preview. Memebers saying that a positive review based on opinion is just bullshit is stiffling and non-productive for this site and its users. Listeners are intitled to their opinions: just make your comments and then shut the hell up - no need to review the reviews, right?
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28-05-2005 20:57 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by Nosrac
I don't think its fair to say people who liked this track are just kissing ass or "praising hardware" (saw no indication that hardware was being used?). This track recieved some good reviews because it is a good fresh sounding song with a lot of potential - it has a unique use of an amen loop that I've never heard before, and an interesting contrast between dark and synthy parts that roll along very nicely in this track preview. Memebers saying that a positive review based on opinion is just bullshit is stiffling and non-productive for this site and its users. Listeners are intitled to their opinions: just make your comments and then shut the hell up - no need to review the reviews, right? |
i agree...however no one should be giving something like this a 10/10 when its not even a song...its just sounds and random structure...and the amen structure was quite boring...and prolly wouldnt hold up to a label... There is a difference between a positive based review and someone just making bullshit up...
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29-05-2005 02:28 |
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thefunke1
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Nosrac, Very welll put, and agree 100%.
Surora, Also agree that track is very random and lacks structure.
Nosrac put it best though, we are here to review the tunes, not each other reviews. I've came back to this post a few times, just to see where this discussion was going. Unfortunatley, words are getting thrown around, and it's became obvious there is some ill feelings between certain users, which is sad.
As well, whether the track is rated 1/10 or 10/10 I usually listen to all tracks as I like to form my own thoughts, not judge the tune based on what others rate it, or write about it.
I hope other members come and listen to this tune, and ignore most of the discussion thus far, and write a review based on the tune.
I think 90% of the people on this site, including myself, have no aspirations, or false illusions that anything will ever go anywhere other than this being a hobbie. Let's try to remember why you are here in the first place, because you like producing, and because you love music.
This constant rambling, about friends rating tracks, or writing good reviews is so childish and immature, of course if people on this site have friends outside of the site, or made within the site, they may get more reviews, possibly better ratings, and more views of their post, although how do you think democratic politics works in the real world? it's the same, therefore get used to it.
Alright, I hate to rant, but thought something was needed.
K.C. Walsh, keep up the work, again, as mentioned before, work on structure, there are tones of posts, tips, and advice within this site and others. Once you learn the basic's of composition and structure, I think you tunes will really start to sound a lot better. The sounds you use, (hardware, software, or underware) sound really nice. Keep enjoying the creative process, the never ending quest for knowledge, the pleasure of the music, and most important to have fun doing it.
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29-05-2005 23:50 |
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Will Post new version soon, made a mistake with this file 
Anyway thank's for the tip's {everyone} 
The only hardware used was a twin tube compressor. I agree, it's not that great of a track. but it is just a prievew and indeed a work in progress. It seem's that everyone else wrote their comment's based on this assumption. So there it is, it's actually mostly software and I agree that software soundz just as good as hardware. I think a marrage between the two is the way to go for me. Once again thank's for all the great tip's on structure, you guy's really helped out. 
Peace. 