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unless you have a clear statement/permission of the artist/copyright holding entity, you can't.
Off course, you can do whatever you want with it => f.e. making a track out of it and playing it at parties, but you can't make it public, or 'redistribute' it in any sense (including posting your track on this forum)
check sabam for further info on Belgian rules applied to copyrights or check this thread posted some time ago.
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Depends.
In some cases (quite rare) you can, but 95% there's always some company involved holding the copyrights...
It's a very case-specific matter, that's why most (big) recordcompanies have expert lawyers/jurists for this.
So, sample like crazy, but be carefull if you want to make it public.
You can offcourse make a track loaded with samples, if you have deformed them enough, probably noone will object, but, when releasing a record, the label will most likely want to know how and with what you made your music, and then it's for your own good that you're strictly fair/honest to avoid later possible problems/accusations.
And if someone thinks you have used a copyrighted sample, you have to prove what your sources are, it can go as far as someone checking your computer/samplebanks to check whether or not you used a copyrighted sample.
Difficult matter, but still, sampling is the best sign-o-the-times there is.
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If producers provide acapellas, thats mostly to give DJs the oportunity to do mashups in their set, not to give other producers the rights to sample it 
A lot of acapellas on the net aren't even oficially released. The "Pump up the Jam" acapella for instance, is owned by only 2 people... but still you can find it on the net... One of the two must have sold it for a quick buck...
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Originally posted by Surya
If producers provide acapellas, thats mostly to give DJs the oportunity to do mashups in their set, not to give other producers the rights to sample it
A lot of acapellas on the net aren't even oficially released. The "Pump up the Jam" acapella for instance, is owned by only 2 people... but still you can find it on the net... One of the two must have sold it for a quick buck... |
estherella or something 
puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump uuuuuuuuuuuuuup theeeeeeeee jaaaaaaaaaaaam
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Originally posted by Friscko
there's this age thing too,no?
when a track reaches a certain age, the copyright doesnt count anymore.
so u can sample mozart...
and elviis presley too, if i'm not mistaken |
In the USA that period of time is 70yrs...After those 70 yrs has past, someone else can claim the copywrites other than the original artist (basically someone can bcome the new 'writer' or 'artist' of the original work) everyoine will knwo its not that person, but the copy wrtes will be hteirs and they can re distribute the old music, etc upon their own will...its how people now a days still make money of those great artist that have passed away many years ago...
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16-05-2005 14:38 |
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any of u kno that michael jackson bought the rights to the entire beatles collection, all their songs? wonder why they even sold it.
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Originally posted by Darkside
any of u kno that michael jackson bought the rights to the entire beatles collection, all their songs? wonder why they even sold it. |
They probably didn't, their record company did, somewhere in the 80s...
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
the only things copyrightable on any record you buy is the melody and the lyrics. so, unless it states otherwise, lyrics are copyrighted.
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So u can "steal" a snare, guitar skank, bass drum..just the sounds, not the melody or drumloop
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No, the actual audio is copyrighted too. You can't sample anything off a copyrighted record.
You can eg use drum patterns or the notes of the bassline but you have to recreate them with your own sounds.
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Originally posted by Surya
If producers provide acapellas, thats mostly to give DJs the oportunity to do mashups in their set, not to give other producers the rights to sample it
A lot of acapellas on the net aren't even oficially released. The "Pump up the Jam" acapella for instance, is owned by only 2 people... but still you can find it on the net... One of the two must have sold it for a quick buck... |
Why, then, they have putted accapella on a CD ?! 
If you skratch with it or sumthing you need it on a vinyl, CD skratchers are worth the shit!
You can mix it with instrumental track yeah, but on CD?! duh
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24-05-2005 12:43 |
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Surya
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As I said: for mashups...
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Originally posted by Surora23
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Originally posted by Friscko
there's this age thing too,no?
when a track reaches a certain age, the copyright doesnt count anymore.
so u can sample mozart...
and elviis presley too, if i'm not mistaken |
In the USA that period of time is 70yrs...After those 70 yrs has past, someone else can claim the copywrites other than the original artist (basically someone can bcome the new 'writer' or 'artist' of the original work) everyoine will knwo its not that person, but the copy wrtes will be hteirs and they can re distribute the old music, etc upon their own will...its how people now a days still make money of those great artist that have passed away many years ago... |
it's 70 years after the DEATH of the artist that samples are free to use, nt 70 years after the creation of the tune.. (studying intellectual property atm
hehehe)
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we forget this, so don't expect to make a buck off it. legally
