 Sample selection for breaks |
Rude 
I'm gonna get you
Registration Date: 06-01-2005
Posts: 1,600
Helpfulness rating:
 |
|
I was wondering what kind of samples you guys are using to get the right sound in your breaks... The more chaotic ones
1) kicks?
2) snares?
3) ghosts?
4) rides?
5) ?????
__
|
|
|
14-05-2005 11:41 |
|
|
Soi
Super Moderator
Registration Date: 29-01-2003
Posts: 1,417
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
i don't completely understand the question....
What is it you're trying to ask?
Of course beats are made with kicks, snares, hihats, rides, ghosts, and possible multitude of your favo sounds
__
a myspace
my tunes
"I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am.
It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get."
|
|
|
14-05-2005 11:50 |
|
|
Rude
I'm gonna get you
Registration Date: 06-01-2005
Posts: 1,600
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
if you use the one-hit samples from the site, which ones do you use?
__
|
|
|
14-05-2005 11:53 |
|
|
Soi
Super Moderator
Registration Date: 29-01-2003
Posts: 1,417
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
all of 'em 
remember: there are NO rules.
but to answer your question: i use the drumnbass.be-samplepacks =>metallic sounding snares sometimes.
But bear in mind that making music is a continuous search for the right samples.
__
a myspace
my tunes
"I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am.
It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get."
|
|
|
14-05-2005 11:56 |
|
|
Rude
I'm gonna get you
Registration Date: 06-01-2005
Posts: 1,600
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
yea I know
very very hard to get the sound right
impossible without the right samples
__
|
|
|
14-05-2005 11:59 |
|
|
Rude
I'm gonna get you
Registration Date: 06-01-2005
Posts: 1,600
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
but please give examples like Bd006 or something...
or "amensnare001" or something
__
|
|
|
14-05-2005 12:15 |
|
|
Soi
Super Moderator
Registration Date: 29-01-2003
Posts: 1,417
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
Look, don't over-focus on what other people use for samples.
Maybe i can help you with the following: you probably heard lota people on this board talking about 'layering', well, start making your own hits (kicks, snares are the most important ones, then cymbals, ghosts,...)
For example: when you need a good/solid kick to work with, you might try and layer two kicks, one snappy/punchy/short (with higher frequencies) + the second long, deep kick. after some experimenting with positioning/eq/volumes you just might find yourself outrageous: you just made a killer-kick.
Same for snares, try layering 3 snares : one long (tssssj), one short (tak) + a clap (yeah, that's right, a handclap), these 3 combined make good snares.
try it.
__
a myspace
my tunes
"I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am.
It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get."
|
|
|
14-05-2005 12:42 |
|
|
Muad'Dib
Andrejnalin
Registration Date: 02-12-2003
Posts: 4,197
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
Well, I try to layer some sounds over the samples, so it's not the sample itself. A trick: take a 3xosc (in Fruity) or any oscilator with polyphone sound, set its attack and predelay times at 0 ms, set the hold time very, VERY short (example 2-6 ms), set the decay time to some 15 ms (or less), and sustain and release times to 10 ms max.
Choose (or adjust the oscilator) to make some noise sound, but quite loud. Layer it with your snare (or hat) perscussion - BOOM you have better, aggressive snare rocking! 
__
Thinking about becoming an Image-Line/FL Studio customer? Want a 10% reduction in price? Use this affiliate link:
http://affiliate.image-line.com/BADEBDG473
There is no such thing without its opposite
-Bene Gesserit
|
|
|
14-05-2005 12:47 |
|
|
Surya
The Robot
Registration Date: 04-11-2002
Posts: 11,238
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
Earlyer this week I was working on a new track, and I wanted a new snare sound, but I couldn't find anything to fit it, so I started adding distortion quite agressivly. After 4 hours of experimenting with the distortion, EQing, compression and offcourse additional layering, I got it, and the feedback from friends is what I wanted: it's completely over the top
Maybe we should do a "most intense snare" compo or something
__
"In dnb you should make people jump not swim"
- Pieter Frenssen 2004
|
|
|
14-05-2005 13:43 |
|
|
Muad'Dib
Andrejnalin
Registration Date: 02-12-2003
Posts: 4,197
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Surya
Earlyer this week I was working on a new track, and I wanted a new snare sound, but I couldn't find anything to fit it, so I started adding distortion quite agressivly. After 4 hours of experimenting with the distortion, EQing, compression and offcourse additional layering, I got it, and the feedback from friends is what I wanted: it's completely over the top
Maybe we should do a "most intense snare" compo or something
|
I've achieved a metalic snare out of a normal wood snare with adding distorsions (in incredible amounts)
__
Thinking about becoming an Image-Line/FL Studio customer? Want a 10% reduction in price? Use this affiliate link:
http://affiliate.image-line.com/BADEBDG473
There is no such thing without its opposite
-Bene Gesserit
|
|
|
14-05-2005 14:00 |
|
|
Surya
The Robot
Registration Date: 04-11-2002
Posts: 11,238
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by muaddib
| quote: |
Originally posted by Surya
Earlyer this week I was working on a new track, and I wanted a new snare sound, but I couldn't find anything to fit it, so I started adding distortion quite agressivly. After 4 hours of experimenting with the distortion, EQing, compression and offcourse additional layering, I got it, and the feedback from friends is what I wanted: it's completely over the top
Maybe we should do a "most intense snare" compo or something
|
I've achieved a metalic snare out of a normal wood snare with adding distorsions (in incredible amounts)
|
Shhh! Don't give away all the "secrets" 
__
"In dnb you should make people jump not swim"
- Pieter Frenssen 2004
|
|
|
14-05-2005 15:09 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
heres an idea........save some money and buy a decent sample cd, im not talking one of these 30£ ones from time and space (although some are ok) i mean high end expensive ones........but audition them before u buy,
then theres the alternative of getting a decent recording from a live kit, layer this with your digital drums for a more authentic sound, worked for me anyway.
then you could always go and do what most people do and sample some old vinyl or cds.........just dont be blatantly obvious about it. this is probably the cheapest and most sensible option.....just make sure you obscure what u use.
|
|
|
14-05-2005 16:00 |
|
|
@1$-)
unregistered
|
|
not true.
most sample cds are shit.
but theres a lot of high end ones people dont even know exist!!!!
and the only reason youll sound like everyone else is if you blatanly use loops.........
im not talking those shit time and space ones........
|
|
|
14-05-2005 16:47 |
|
|
Friscko
Aron Tinnitus
Registration Date: 12-03-2005
Posts: 4,467
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
|
|
14-05-2005 18:14 |
|
|
Surya
The Robot
Registration Date: 04-11-2002
Posts: 11,238
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Friscko
(ravesounds bu surya
) |
Everybody seems to love those
__
"In dnb you should make people jump not swim"
- Pieter Frenssen 2004
|
|
|
14-05-2005 18:16 |
|
|
Friscko
Aron Tinnitus
Registration Date: 12-03-2005
Posts: 4,467
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
|
|
14-05-2005 18:39 |
|
|
Surya
The Robot
Registration Date: 04-11-2002
Posts: 11,238
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
| quote: |
Originally posted by Friscko
what did u use to do those? has great reeces! |
Long time ago, don't remember... I know I had had some of them since 96...
__
"In dnb you should make people jump not swim"
- Pieter Frenssen 2004
|
|
|
14-05-2005 18:53 |
|
|
Friscko
Aron Tinnitus
Registration Date: 12-03-2005
Posts: 4,467
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
|
|
14-05-2005 19:02 |
|
|
Halph-Price
Zombie Algorithm
Registration Date: 22-12-2004
Posts: 6,160
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
i find thoes nano techn nsres usekess, but the metallic ones priceless. they make for a great full sound layerd with a durm machine like snare and a JX-305 snares that have DC offsets, or just real snares or acoustic snares.... thick and sharp....
__
|
|
|
14-05-2005 19:29 |
|
|
Rude
I'm gonna get you
Registration Date: 06-01-2005
Posts: 1,600
Helpfulness rating:
|
|
so... If I want to make breaks like an amen, what kind of kick do I need?
__
|
|
|
19-05-2005 19:43 |
|
|
|
