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Hi, total noobquestion but how do you mess around with hi end/ low end and mid to get more pure sounds, u do all this with the parametric EQ, if so, how?
Other question: how to make snares flat?
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14-03-2005 14:19 |
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spudleyq 
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You can do it with a parametric, paragraphic, OR a graphic EQ. You do it by raising the gain of a frequency. Parametric EQ's are probably your best bet, especially a parametric EQ that has four or more bands. Parametric EQ's are nice because you can alter the width and the peak of the specific frequency you wish to tweak. You want more high end? Take a parametric EQ and make the center frequency for band 1 way up in the high end of the spectrum. If you have the option of making the band peak, high-band, or low-band, then you'll obviously make it high-band. This will raise every freq. above the assigned freq. by the gain you've set it at. You may then alter the width of the band, making it peak up sharply, or gradually rise the surrounding frequencies. The same applies to the low-end, except you switch it around for the low-end. And those are the basics of a parametric EQ.
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14-03-2005 14:36 |
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Oh yeah!! You can make snares flat by cutting out all the high-end freqs. This will give it the "muddy" feeling. I also suppose you can alter the velocity of the snare, raise the decay, and take away that "snappy" feeling you usually get. It will be more drawn out. Even after you do this you can remove the higher freqs.
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14-03-2005 14:38 |
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Oh yeah, and that's not really a noob question.....that's a very valid question. The answers will most likely contain plenty of knowledge that you will grow with....and that makes it very valid.
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14-03-2005 14:40 |
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in the EQ you move the left side up, for the "low" end which is the 10-500 frequency side.
raise the right side to boos up the "high" end.
these are high shelf and low shelf.
it's quite simple, snares, are not though.
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14-03-2005 17:43 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
in the EQ you move the left side up, for the "low" end which is the 10-500 frequency side.
raise the right side to boos up the "high" end.
these are high shelf and low shelf.
it's quite simple, snares, are not though. |
Yeah.....that's a little simpler of an explanation.
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14-03-2005 19:23 |
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Well, it kinda speaks for itsself, but you eq'in won't do anything if the frequency you are trying to boost isn't there in your original sound. So if you would try to raise the high-end on a 100Hz sine wave bass, it won't do a thing.
Also it is better to turn frequencies down rather then up, or you may end up overpowering your other sounds. So instead of boosting the volume of the frequency you want to hear more, lower the ones you want to hear less.
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14-03-2005 19:40 |
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Halph-Price
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oh hey ya, that's a good pont.
the high freq are the hardest to get, because unlike the subs, you can't fake it.
that's why some high level drum loops, like the AMEN help. check this site's download page for examples. or loops to blatently exploit.
for the sub, you can just use a sine wave, or use MDA SubSynth, FREE! it's a VST effect, that will add sub sounds to any input! it works EXTORDINARLY well to help add low freq to that bassline.
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14-03-2005 20:24 |
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Originally posted by spudleyq
Oh yeah!! You can make snares flat by cutting out all the high-end freqs. This will give it the "muddy" feeling. I also suppose you can alter the velocity of the snare, raise the decay, and take away that "snappy" feeling you usually get. It will be more drawn out. Even after you do this you can remove the higher freqs. |
You can also achieve the muddy feeling by the next procedure:
1. You take a parametric EQ.
2. You set its bands to evenly distribute on the frequency of the snare.
-This might only come if you watched on the graphic spectrometer the frequencies the snare takes.
By even distribution I mean this: you have a snare which takes freqs from 2000Hz to 4500Hz (this is very impossible snare, though 
). You have, for example, 4 bands on your paramentric EQ. So you set their frequency evenly on the frequency spectrum the snare takes, in this case 2050Hz -- 3000Hz -- 3700Hz -- 4300Hz. It is better to have parametric EQ with more bands so that you can distribute them more closely.
3. Then you set up the Q of the bands (the frequency range they take around the point you designated for them). You make it small, very small. If you have only few bands, you let the Q have some bigger value. If you have more bands, to put it to have smaller and smaller values as much more bands you have.
What will this give? You will have muddy, flat feeling to your snare. Beside, every sound that takes the same frequency range (or part of it) of your snare will be heard LOUD and CLEAR.
For getting more "live" sound now, if your snare is too muddy, after the first EQ put another EQ of the overall snare, and boost high-frequencies. This will provide some life to it. 
Hope this helped.
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14-03-2005 20:37 |
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
for the sub, you can just use a sine wave, or use MDA SubSynth, FREE! it's a VST effect, that will add sub sounds to any input! it works EXTORDINARLY well to help add low freq to that bassline. |
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14-03-2005 20:54 |
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Because in digital you can't get higher sound levels than 0 db , you normaly only cut frequenty's you don't need . For instance you have a kick and a bass , these sounds have simular frequenty's and these will ad up with eachother and you will get over 0db very fast . Solution cut the lower frequenty of the bass sound to make room for the kick and then ad some sub to the bass . ( MDA plugin mentioned earlyer )
So below +-80 Hz is the sub than you make room for the kick between 80 and 140 and the rest of the bass above 140 . ( these are very rough estimates )
You only boost frequenty's if a sound needs more pressence but be carefull with boosting , you can only go to max !
The "rule" with EQ is : first cut and if that doesn't work boost . But rules are meant to be broken so .....
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15-03-2005 06:09 |
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Halph-Price
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for kick sub there's a steady tone that will realease with the measured MS... i love MDA SubSynth.
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15-03-2005 06:43 |
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Halph-Price
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mid, well you can use the paramatic EQ, or add a piano or something.
gosh.
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