 Why does my mix sound bad? |
wulf
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i'm creating this track in reason,
and its sounds like i'm listening outside of the building of a party
what the hell?
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01-03-2005 16:50 |
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@1$-)
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er........to much reverb maybe??
try using smaller room style reverbs instead of the hall ones......
you could try eq'ing each sound individually.....
but my only real advice is get hold of cubase sx....and rewire it through there....better eq and better quality vsti....and better sound quality!! the audio engine is much better than reasons.....sounds often get lost in the mix easily with reason
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01-03-2005 19:43 |
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muphasta 
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01-03-2005 19:54 |
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Halph-Price
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yea, we're just guessing.
we need to hear with our ears.
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01-03-2005 20:08 |
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Surya
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Originally posted by Halph-Price
increase the high end. ... can't do it in reason 2.5 |
Why wouldn't you be able to boost the high end in Reason 
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01-03-2005 22:44 |
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DjSlut
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maybe check ur effects, sometimes u automate a low pass filter or something and then forget about it. Done that a few times myself...
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02-03-2005 02:03 |
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Muad'Dib
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Aren't you people aware of the plugins you put??? 
Wow, that is experimental (shakes hands).
Now, maybe your compresion phats the tune, try kicking out the compressor.
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02-03-2005 07:51 |
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wulf
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i emailed the .rns to someone but i forgot who
i think it was halph-price
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02-03-2005 11:56 |
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Halph-Price
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you got the master turned down to almost nothing, then the channels cranked up with the treb and bass CRANKED TO MAX.
without even playing the song, the thing to do is set thoes all back to normal, put master volume up to the normal spot.
now turn down the trebel and bass boosts on the mixer.
just on the context of the kicks. they really are what bring the sound down.
you have 4 kicks, cool, but you need one kick, to be deep, but still have punch in the mid section, without going into the bass.
the kicks randomly, fill the entire lower end, there's no set freq for them. got a nice kick with a little hat on it, another a bit higher up, with some fuzz, than a fat, House like kick, with a bit more mid section, going on. than another kick i almost missed, because i though it was more a snare. but it's a hit hat and a upper kick, more like a tom, or something.
ANYWAYS pick 2, or, just play one kick.
i didn't mess MUCH. just chenged the volume, and took out 2 kicks....
YOUR VERSION
sounded worse in reason... but louder i tihnk.
MY VERSION
okay, so it clips JUST a little, but sitll sounds like it's not next door. or even more than an inch away from your head, but still, master volume down even a notch more, it works.
hell i could turned down the tracks voume down a bit than fucking with the master. but still. before it didn't even cut intot eh orange on the master. clock down your Windows volume settings, NEVER the mixer's.
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Halph-Price: 03-03-2005 05:23.
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03-03-2005 05:22 |
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Hidden identity
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my suggestions go like this:
try a stereo inhancer in the master effects track,
use master EQ, experiment witht he EQ and see how it sounds as you boost versiou frequencys.
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12-04-2005 00:33 |
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illuminati
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try IZOTOPE ozone 2 it`s a DX or VST plugin so you can run it from host sequencers or in soundforge...you kinda have to have the mix roughly where you want it for it to be effective...also if you don`t have a decent soundcard...mastering becomes next to impossible when laying many tracks....the sound just mudds out and sounds like shit....
i`ve been running reason 3 thru cubase and using blue tubes eq on the drums because it fattens the sound a lot and using timeworks mastering compressor on the main output channel....if you do a mixdown and then do another with just drums...then you can open the near identical tracks...again in cubase as audio and re eq everything and bring up the separate drum channel to taste...it works pretty good....just beefs the sound up more...still a good soundcard is the key to really squeezing the most out of software...don`t really matter how much you know about the engineering if you have a poo poo card
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20-04-2005 06:05 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by illuminati
try IZOTOPE ozone 2 it`s a DX or VST plugin so you can run it from host sequencers or in soundforge...you kinda have to have the mix roughly where you want it for it to be effective...also if you don`t have a decent soundcard...mastering becomes next to impossible when laying many tracks....the sound just mudds out and sounds like shit....
i`ve been running reason 3 thru cubase and using blue tubes eq on the drums because it fattens the sound a lot and using timeworks mastering compressor on the main output channel....if you do a mixdown and then do another with just drums...then you can open the near identical tracks...again in cubase as audio and re eq everything and bring up the separate drum channel to taste...it works pretty good....just beefs the sound up more...still a good soundcard is the key to really squeezing the most out of software...don`t really matter how much you know about the engineering if you have a poo poo card |
you cant use vst's in reason...
Dude get logic...
logic 5.5=sex...seriosuly...
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20-04-2005 06:46 |
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Dave_Akuma
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Originally posted by Surora23
logic 5.5=sex...seriosuly... |
i had cubase sx 1 and was getting sex every day....
logic vs. cubase is like coke vs. pepsi
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20-04-2005 07:23 |
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Rude
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outside music
anyway, have you put the cutoff-button down or something?
probably the eq... could also be the filter 
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20-04-2005 17:59 |
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Halph-Price
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Originally posted by iNSiGHt
i just think it's reason.
i don't like the sound.
conversion is bad, has holes in it.
but one tip that has always stuck with me.
imagine the frequency spectrum as a large orchestra, where you have instrument from a large kettle drum to a tiny triangle and all those instruments in between.
they all need they're space to be heard. if you have too many drums they'll drown out the violins, too many violins drown out the cellos.
therefore if related to the frequency spectrum give all the elements of your tracks their own space and place.
a good way to do this is filters and eq. take away what you don't want.
probably stating the obvious but i have insomnia 
edit: btw this thread is nothing to do with mastering it's to do with mixing. |
no it's not reason, he had the master volume all the way down and the mixer's all cranked up with the highest possible HIGh and LOW on them, making it so there was no MID in the song.
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21-04-2005 02:23 |
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Greyone
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and if everything stucks and still wont work...Try Fruity Loops !
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