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Halph-Price 
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do you ever find that your songs have a sound to it that seems odd, or do they sound like all the other songs you hear?
like, not even going into the masterd sound, but maybe that's what it is. i dunno, but does your music always seem to sound differant?
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28-01-2005 04:43 |
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Surora23
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um no?!?!?...maybe its jsut cause you havent really done much mastering on your tracks...the mixdown i think is the most important...well maybe...but its deffinitely up there with important things...you could have an amaziing track and itll suck cause it sounds drowned out or too lo-fi etc... 
EQ's are important...i know i have touble with mine many times...
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28-01-2005 04:47 |
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Halph-Price
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before the mix down though.
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28-01-2005 04:51 |
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MrNibbles
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I think i know what you mean man,
its because its YOUR music, you understand every tiny segment of it in such detail it bores you before you finish making it. I get this ALL THE TIME (hence my tracks are short :p) and working out how to compose past these errors and making a piece of music flow is incredibly hard.
I find that working with someone elses music, re-creating a track you like or building sounds around a track you know really empasises this point, it sounds fresh and new and exciting... because you didnt make it.
or maby im just shit 
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28-01-2005 05:24 |
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djfreemc
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Originally posted by MrNibbles
I think i know what you mean man,
its because its YOUR music, you understand every tiny segment of it in such detail it bores you before you finish making it. I get this ALL THE TIME (hence my tracks are short :p) and working out how to compose past these errors and making a piece of music flow is incredibly hard.
I find that working with someone elses music, re-creating a track you like or building sounds around a track you know really empasises this point, it sounds fresh and new and exciting... because you didnt make it.
or maby im just shit
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Yup that's so true. Not only for music but fot anything u make. Other people will (mostly) not notice little mistakes and say: wow it's great while u are still like nooo this and that and that should/could still be better.
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28-01-2005 18:46 |
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spudleyq
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100% agree
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28-01-2005 19:37 |
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Halph-Price
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EXACTLY! i love playing around with my friends music and adding to it and everything.
probably why there is so many remixes of songs.
i gave it some thought, and i relised i get the same sort of feeling hearing other peoples music, and that's only if they use the same instruments or programs as i have used in a song.
like if i hear the TS404 from FL, that's pretty clean and dry, or a sampled snare, especialy from the fl packs, i have heard them on tech tv before, and it's like glass breaking, it sticks out in my own mind, a lot more than other people hear it.
it's interesting how the mind can almost create or fillin sounds sometimes. even though the snare is being coverd by other music it appears like it's playing clearly in my mind, because it is familular.
i guess it's like listening to an old record, and if there's a hair on it that part of the song is gone, bu the mind still fills in the sounds it expects to hear at that point, regardless.
i don't know exactly, if even i am relating it all right, i am talking more about the human condition than anything, but that's why music is made in the first place.
when you hear familuar sounds, you can hear in it, what others can't, when they are not famular with it, because your own mind, rembers the other sounds, tha are not audiuable. your memories color a song a lot more than anything else does.
so the song i just made that i have listend to 200 times, over and over again, i am more familuar with it than anyone else.
some artist never listen to their own music at all. i wonder why.
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29-01-2005 03:22 |
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dirk
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Every instrument (software or hardware) has a character (timbre) of its own and you only have a limited amount of different instruments . This means that all your songs have the character (timbre) of the instuments that you use . And if everyone else uses the same instruments as you all their songs will have the same character as yours to . Most of you use Fruityloops or Reason so you do the math......
Solution : Rise above the mass !!!
Greetings Dirk .
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29-01-2005 08:21 |
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Surora23
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thats exactly what makes you abeter producer...your ability to recognise all those things...when i lsitn to hardcore metal like darkest hour or atreyu or soemting i listen to a few things...(the melodies of the guitar, and the drums) ever stab on the string and every hit of a kick and snare i hear cleary...those who cant dont know the music or dont understand it...
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29-01-2005 08:24 |
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charleskoncept
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hmm sounds like a very in depth discussion going on here.
I get the feeling of being bored with some of my own tracks before they are done, just like nibbles, and i find that i need to break before going on to it again. Thats also the main reason i only post one or two a month. Cause well if i get bored with it too easily i know everyone else will too.
You are your own best(and worst) critic... use it.
peace.
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29-01-2005 21:14 |
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Halph-Price
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i have heard it's best to work on a song for only a half hour, and then give yuor ears a rest, listen to some pro music for a bit and then go back to it.
i change the song i am working on every 10 minutes or so then check out this site, stuff like that.
to actual finish a song would take me a month too, to get it perfect. eq, feelings, song structure, all the bridges done, perfect rhythm.
hell i got enough trouble just making the atmos elemnts.
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29-01-2005 21:32 |
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charleskoncept
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^^^ i tend to go play video games... and think about the song in the time off. what i liked what i didnt like etc. etc. you know think of new sounds and new ways to implement the sound.
So far i think ive gotten good results...
peace.
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29-01-2005 21:47 |
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mcsav
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I am fairly new dnb producer but have good idea with music. One of the biggest mistakes in music production is that producers can end up playing with a tune too much (changing things too often) ending up ruining it.
Sometimes its best left alone and left orignial.
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