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WOW. 
This ownz. Drum programming is excellent, the mental synth arrangement works really well.
Alas I can't do the bassline justice on my speakers. I can't suggest anything except maybe lower the scream, but I'm sure it will work well on a club system.
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28-01-2005 04:22 |
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B-complex
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Intro sounds good, chords sounds bit oldskool but it's okay, drums are well equalised but I think the song is overlimited [overcompressed] it can be heard when subs is playing that drum volume is much lower, don't limit it so much. 1:30 break sound evil 
now the main part started and sadly I have to say that here it's a mess equalization-wise, yesterday one guy sent me some of his works that as he said was released on some australian label, it was pretty horrible sometimes out of key but mixed properly, if this was better mixed it would be a lot better song. In 2minute sound is loosing grip, sounds are fighting for space. It sounds like elements are sounding nicely on it's own but bad in the mix, you have to sacrifice "solo" sound to fit it into the mix, just play more and more elements together and equalise it until it fits. It reminds me some of anachronix tunes I was listening in my walkman in the morning... In 4:40 I don't feel those chords much, I think it's offkey and does not fit with the atmosphere of rest of the song. Remember that loudness of a song is not a point.
3.5/5 for a song
2/5 for the sound
overall 3/5
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This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by B-complex: 28-01-2005 10:28.
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28-01-2005 10:27 |
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spudleyq
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*punts a sheep out the window*
Fuckin' sheep.
Engaged...I've already heard the beginning a million times. I still don't like that dillinja style bass...it's just not rough enough for me, I bet it sounds nice on a system though. FUCKIN SHEEP!! Evil man.....nice. I can hear what b-comp is talking about, it does sound like some of the sounds are fighting with other sounds for volume. Breakdown...sounding nice....fuckin' sheep again.....always gettin in the way. I can see what b-comp meant by those chords at 4:40, they seem too light and airy for the feel of your song. I'll have to see what Raiden thinks of it tonight....he better fuckin play it. If not....then I can at least have him listen to it and tell me what he thinks of it. If he does play it though, it's going to be played on 6 18 inch subwoofers, 2 15 inch subwoofers, 2 15 inch JBL monitors, and heard by an entire bar packed full of bums......and most of the people walking down the street. 
B-comp was right about it being overcompressed though, it does sound overcompressed.
umm
5/5 for the song/idea
3/5 for sound/mixing (sorry, it does need a little work though)
200/5 for fuckin sheep!!
BOH!!!
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28-01-2005 14:32 |
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Surora23
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Originally posted by spudleyq
*punts a sheep out the window*
Fuckin' sheep.
Engaged...I've already heard the beginning a million times. I still don't like that dillinja style bass...it's just not rough enough for me, I bet it sounds nice on a system though. FUCKIN SHEEP!! Evil man.....nice. I can hear what b-comp is talking about, it does sound like some of the sounds are fighting with other sounds for volume. Breakdown...sounding nice....fuckin' sheep again.....always gettin in the way. I can see what b-comp meant by those chords at 4:40, they seem too light and airy for the feel of your song. I'll have to see what Raiden thinks of it tonight....he better fuckin play it. If not....then I can at least have him listen to it and tell me what he thinks of it. If he does play it though, it's going to be played on 6 18 inch subwoofers, 2 15 inch subwoofers, 2 15 inch JBL monitors, and heard by an entire bar packed full of bums......and most of the people walking down the street.
B-comp was right about it being overcompressed though, it does sound overcompressed.
umm
5/5 for the song/idea
3/5 for sound/mixing (sorry, it does need a little work though)
200/5 for fuckin sheep!!
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Although i have an updated version, what are everyone else's thoughts on this bad boy?
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29-01-2005 01:42 |
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zebediah
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Wow! Really nice tune. The pads in the beginning don't really go anywhere and they do sound a bit off key ... but ... they loop in a really nice interesting way. I have to give you mad props on how you wrote it. That huge synth with the reverb followed by the buzzy bass drops is fuckin* awesome. I may have 2 steal a few ideas from ya.
The drums are tight and i'm really impressed by how they run with the tune. They sound full and the choice of hits used are perfect. The hi hats have personality which is very hard to achieve alot of the time for me and my buddys.
I hear what folks are sayin about the limiting or compression or whatever ... a bit too much but it sounds FAT when done just rite. Doesn't sound like you're too far off. I could see you gettin signed within the next couple of years the way you're goin G. All your productions are very consistent. Good Job!
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29-01-2005 04:08 |
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Surora23
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wow dude...thanks alot...i appreciate taht comment alot...and yes im trying really hard with the compresiong and eq'ing...needs work and im getting there...with the pads, the idea was to be jstu a tiny bit off key...to sound a bit wavy and out of tune to get a gothic yet melodic feel 
....and im really glad you liked the growling reece...its my favorite part..
any more comments?
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29-01-2005 07:52 |
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dNk
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lohe the intro , beautifull pad , drop is good , feel it 
drums nice , but sometimes it need to be a bit punchy but this is just a matter of taste
about chords i want to tell that they not bad , but still need to be a work
and what we have
idea : 3.75
sound : 4
but i give u : 4 
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29-01-2005 11:50 |
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Surora23
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again the pads in the second drop are detuned (in the newer version if your interested, pm me) and are a bit off on purpose....
thanks for the comment though!
anymore!?!?!
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29-01-2005 19:30 |
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T.roll
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As everyone said- nice warm pads in intro
Crash a bit loud imo. "fucking sheep" is cool 
1:36 Drop is nice!
1:58
- this should of been started at 1:36!
Nice filtered/lfoed bass. Pads are coming again at 2:40 - too early imo or get rid of filtred bass at this moment.
Second drop: your pad continues from the drop, CUT or fade it at 3:56!! Maybe it's an FL bug, wrong sample cutting, i had this problem too... Reccomend you to install FL 5, those bugs are fixed and much better sound quality. Ok, return to our sheeps..
Imho the hard part should be a bit longer after a second drop.. Overall - smasher that needs some tuning.
Rating 4/5 track 4.5/5 structure (classic structure works
) 2.5/5 mixing
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30-01-2005 12:18 |
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CHALLENJA
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Registration Date: 25-07-2004
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ya i would agree with all the producers on the overcompression ting, the drums do drown out alot when the 909 bass hits. I would put the drums higher in the mix, that can be done with some proper equing techniques. with every once through of the track you're musical ear will grow. dont be disheartened by what people comment on . most of these EQ Nazi's have more developed ears.. so take to their advice even tho its gonna take work by you, and alot of patience re -eqing things. when you boost one sound another sound falls out of the mix. its a bit maddening sometimes, but keep workin on it man.
check my tune Slaughtered Lamb VIP. its on here and has no reviews so far., and i did the "horror drum and bass style" vocal myself, and the "dont let the demons get you" which is reversed.
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30-01-2005 22:41 |
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Surora23
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no offense, i appreciate everything they say and everything you said...but arent you the guy that madde that really f*cked up song that had no structure or anything? eq nazi's a bit harsh yea? i think ive been one of the better progressors on this site and its because of them...i appreciate every single bad comment they give me...especially from surya and b-complex...and the compression...and the pads in the middle have been worked on...i have a new updated version...to hear it contact me via IM on msn or aol...the addresses are in my profile on here...cheers..thanks for the words though
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31-01-2005 03:41 |
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kareem
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nice intro ,nice use of hihats.
Good beat, nice and rolling.
nice bass but feel like there's something missing, doesn't feel to danceable.
Still, good track.
nice effects, on the bass and the beats.
Nice build-up at 3min20, good tension.
nice track 3,5/5
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01-02-2005 14:18 |
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Room 24
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Registration Date: 01-02-2005
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the sound that comes right after the sub bass is to loud .
Musicaly verry interesting !!! the climax of the track is verry good
good drums and original sounds good synth programing ( or where you lukky zapping through sounds )
compared to comercial tracks the sound is still thin if you get that sorted out you have a great track .
By far the best track i've rated so far !!!
Rating 4/5
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01-02-2005 18:34 |
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Nosrac
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Fantastic opening and ultra slick work bringing hte hats in. I agree that the big sound mentioned above is too loud, but only in the intro - maybe filter it out like you did at 1:50 in the intro and then drop the full frequency range with the drum drop. Nice drum work as usual - but still need a touch more punch - like in the Akuma break used just before 3:00. Nice mid section - very dramatic - great structure and depth here. Some minor key conflicts between pads and bass sound ex. 5:18. Work on the ending perhaps. Another hot track 4.5/5 - regardless of the classification. You should consider putting your tunes into a demo - you've got quite a body of work at this point.
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02-02-2005 04:22 |
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Surya
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Wow, the compression on thisone is a great example of how NOT to compress a track!
Cool basslines and beats, but the sound is completely shit. Sounds very noisy and the compression pushes away the beats.
One small comment though: I find switching basslines has more impact if you switch beats too
Nice idear, OK execution, awfull sound!
2.5/5 for the track
1/5 for the sound!
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02-02-2005 17:19 |
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ethex
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wow this is sick!
like the flangi "wooo" sound
maby too many dropouts?
sounds i great though!
great tune m8!
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02-02-2005 17:44 |
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Surora23
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Wow, the compression on thisone is a great example of how NOT to compress a track!
Nice idear, OK execution, awfull sound!
2.5/5 for the track
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haha thanks for the comment...yea im still working with compression a bit...trying to get it right...i dont 100% understand it completely yet..but i did add a lot...i have another version that is much better imo...i took out a lot of the compression and lower a lot of volumes...cheers...
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02-02-2005 18:40 |
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yeah like this, the lead/bass when it first drops sounds good, but please get rid of the scream.....its been done to death by sooo many people, final soud needs a makeover but its not a bad track.
3.5/5
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03-02-2005 18:31 |
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Surora23
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oh man...right now i have a really good mixdown of this..a lot has changed...if anyone is interested all they gotta do is contact me my via IM
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