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spudleyq 
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Does anyone here know how to make a reece from scratch? I've been fooling around, and can't quite get it right. I was just wondering how you guys make it. Thank you in advance. 
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24-01-2005 15:52 |
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B-complex
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it's very simple
use 2 sawwaves, one detune to -50, put some filter on it and basic reeece is done
for a more complex sound try using more oscilators, try put lfo on an oscilator pitch, chorus it, flange it whatever you like.
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24-01-2005 15:59 |
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wicked_wayz
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^^^what he said 
(although I usually detune -15 cc)
this will sound very basic of course, the key to getting it sounding grittier etc is in distortion. chain some effects, automate them to get some more variation. some good freebe distortion plugins: greasetube, boostmoog, sc overdrive.
it ain't hard getting a boring reece, the really nice sounding ones... now direct guide that i know off, just mess around i guess.
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24-01-2005 16:11 |
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24-01-2005 16:21 |
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peet
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Originally posted by B-complex
try put lfo on an oscilator pitch |
never tried that, could you gimme an example of lfo settings that you'd use for that? like which sync rate, and how much pich changes.
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24-01-2005 16:23 |
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spudleyq
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Yeah.....I don't use Reason.....so that was completely useless to me.....I had noticed that earlier......that's why I started this post.....wanted to know a good method in text.....rather than Reason format that does me no good.
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24-01-2005 19:11 |
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dirk
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If you have two saw waves and invert one then mix them back , detune one saw you have the same as pulsewithmodulation on a pulse wave . Nice is if you use samples from diferent synts in this way you create your own unique waves .
The synths for hoovers and reeses are the Roland Alfajuno-1/Alfajuno-2/MKS-50 . They are analoge/digital hybrits and have a saw ( yes a saw!!! ) with PulseWithModulation . This is posible because of the DigitallyControlledOscillators . They have no self oscillating filter . They are difficult to program without PG300 or software editor . But they are unmatched if it comes to the quality and character of sound for hoovers and reeses .
Greetings Dirk .
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24-01-2005 19:15 |
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spudleyq
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Originally posted by B-complex
it's very simple
use 2 sawwaves, one detune to -50, put some filter on it and basic reeece is done
for a more complex sound try using more oscilators, try put lfo on an oscilator pitch, chorus it, flange it whatever you like. |
That's what I was doing basically.....it just didn't sound right. Maybe I wasn't using a good enough synth for it.
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24-01-2005 19:15 |
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Surya
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I think it's more important which filters you use than which synth you use, coz basically a saw is a saw...
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24-01-2005 19:38 |
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dirk
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| coz basically a saw is a saw... |
No offence but there is difference between saw's of different synths .
The slowly rising or faling fase of wave can be liniair/exponential/logarithmic for example .
Filtering and further soundprossesing is essential .
( PWM causes DC-ofset by the way !!! )
Greetings Dirk .
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24-01-2005 19:56 |
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peet
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yeh ok but thats not surya's point
what he means is that the fx make or break a reece
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25-01-2005 18:24 |
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B-complex
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Originally posted by B-complex
try put lfo on an oscilator pitch |
never tried that, could you gimme an example of lfo settings that you'd use for that? like which sync rate, and how much pich changes. |
I'll make some reece in reason and post it here so you can check it out
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25-01-2005 18:28 |
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peet
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Originally posted by B-complex
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Originally posted by peet
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Originally posted by B-complex
try put lfo on an oscilator pitch |
never tried that, could you gimme an example of lfo settings that you'd use for that? like which sync rate, and how much pich changes. |
I'll make some reece in reason and post it here so you can check it out |
props b thanks
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25-01-2005 18:48 |
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B-complex
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reason reece here we go 
, i've dropped some effects on it to make it sound proper, just turn off screamer and reverb/delays to check it out, turn filter 2 frequency to max, tweaking with LFO1 rate and ammount you change detuning of second oscillator.. njoy
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26-01-2005 02:54 |
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Samoth
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Thats a pretty nice reece. I managed to use a subtractor and detune 1 saw to -40 and the other to +40. It makes a nice modulation. Then play with filters and shit, you know the rest. I read somewhere that its apparently impossible to make a reece in reason as you cant detune the oscilators to -80 cents (!). Some people are fools.
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04-02-2005 21:12 |
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Muad'Dib
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What the heck is a reece?!
I might have been using it without knowing about it 
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Also, what is LFO (I met this in FL), PWM, and saturation ?
10x
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05-02-2005 17:28 |
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Daemon79
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A reece is something like this
It's not mine but something i found on the web on another forum (forgot who it was though). Basically if you combine two of the same signals were one of the signals is slighty detuned you get "zwevingen" (sorry for the dutch i think it is wobbling or something in english)
More infomation can be found here
(don't forget to adjust the frequenc exp 439 + 440y
I have already read different explanations (using square waves, saw waves) using lfo to create the "wobble ". But i think the basic idea is taking 2 waves of a low frequebcy and detuning on of them.
LFO mean low frequency oscillator. Mostly it's a sinus with a very low frequency used for controlling filters, amplitude, frequency. To add vibrato and stuff to a sound
PWM stands for "pulse width modulation" check figure 1 of this site to understand it. normally it is used for controlling motors and stuff but they use it in electronic music as well. (They use everything in electronic music)
saturation means that your signal is so high that the system you're feeding it in can't follow it anymore and the tops of the signal will become flat.(can't find i picture of it) It's in the same family like distortion, clipping, overdive, limiting and the result depends a lot if you use digital or analog, tubes transistors, the type of opamp or mosfet and stuff like that.
hope i helped you
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05-02-2005 19:39 |
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B-complex
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Originally posted by muaddib
What the heck is a reece?!
I might have been using it without knowing about it
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Also, what is LFO (I met this in FL), PWM, and saturation ?
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Reece - sound developed by alexander reece and name for something between "lead synth" and distorted bassline in dnb.
LFO - Low frequency modulator [automates the target by speed and depth you set]
PWM - Pulse width modulator [automates oscilator shape]
Saturation - it's something like when you send your volume to clipping it cuts some peaks digital saturation is usually not good thing but it does sound good on analogue machines, or on software emulated algorythms
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