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peet
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Okay so I'm in the first stages of thinking about getting a drum sequencer. When I started out a year ago I had the same thought but I'm glad I didn't buy one cause I had little knowledge of musical sequencing or audio technology.
Well any way. I'm wanting to get one because I think it can defintely help me in programming breaks and get a more 'hands-on' approach to making tracks. Like combining it with Cubase, so it plays some stuff and I can program breaks with my drum sequencer and then use it thru an audio input as a live midi device in Cubase.
I was thinking between these two:
Yamaha RS 7000
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The Yamaha RS7000 brings it all together. Everything you need for professional-level music production particularly in dance, techno, Hip Hop, R&B, and ambient genres is included and flawlessly integrated in a system that has been specifically designed to facilitate modern production techniques. Delivering unique and powerful features a combination of integrating loops and samples with MIDI, plus the real "hands on" feel of an intuitive interface the RS7000 is a complete desktop studio that answers the needs of modern music production.
A new concept the Integrated Sampling Sequencer
Perhaps the most unique function of the RS7000 is the ability to seamlessly integrate audio and MIDI. The 4-MB of onboard sampling memory is expandable to 64 MB. Users can import samples from a variety of formats; sample sounds themselves from external sources, or even re-sample the internally sequenced sounds of the RS7000 itself to instantly create new audio loops and phrases. The Integrated Sampling Sequencer automatically breaks the samples into discrete parts (based on amplitude peaks), and generates a corresponding MIDI sequence. Audio beats of differing tempos can then be synchronized and processed using the same MIDI tools (such as Grid Groove) as any regular MIDI data, and the same filters and parameters as the internal synth voices.
Synthesis and On-Board Sounds
The RS7000 features a 62-voice AWM2 tone generator with over 1,000 onboard ROM-based synth voices and 63 drum kit sounds. There are six distinct types of filters, including phat resonant low pass, band pass, and hi pass all controllable with a multi-stage envelope. Advanced LFO modulation capabilities included numerous BPM-synchronized waveforms plus a unique user programmable wave for creating your own unique BPM-synchronized effects. All edits to the sounds are stored as an integral part of the song and pattern data, so a virtually unlimited range of user sounds can be created.
Radical Effects Processing Takes Your Sound a Step Further
On top of the three system effects, there is a separate Master effect section with a multi-band compressor, slicer, isolater, and other DJ-style master effects. These effects let you put the finishing touches on your RS7000 productions.
Advanced MIDI Sequencing Capabilities
The MIDI sequencer offers both pattern-based recording with 16 sections of 16 tracks each, and a 200,000 note-per-song linear sequencer. Real-time recording with input quantize, step recording and grid style recording methods are all available. After the data has been recorded you can apply advanced editing macros such as quantize and data thinning to refine your music. Once sections of a song have been fully developed in the Pattern Mode, different arrangements can be performed and auditioned in real time using the RS7000's dedicated section buttons. All pattern and section data can be easily converted to linear sequence song format for final tweaking. The RS7000 takes the MIDI sequencing capabilities first developed in the groundbreaking RM1X to a whole new level.
Real Time Hands On Control
The RS7000 has 18 assignable knobs and two pads for subtle or radical real time control over sounds, samples and MIDI sequences. The knobs can be assigned to control the sounds, modify playback of MIDI data using processes like MIDI echo, harmonize and beat stretch, or assigned to standard MIDI CC messages for controlling external devices. With the RS7000 real time performance of MIDI sequences becomes a brand new art form. |
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Cont...ELECTED,00.html
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Roland MC 909
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The MC-909 Sampling Groovebox® is an entirely new type of professional music workstation. With expandable synthesis including new ROM waveforms and professional sampling, the worlds of audio and MIDI are fused together in an ultra-intuitive environment. Factor in a pro-level sequencer and effectsplus a USB port for exchanging samples and sequences with a PCand the MC-909 has everything producers need to complete their musical vision.
Professional 64-voice workstation with new-generation XV synthesis, sampling, 16-track sequencer, effects and oversized graphic LCD
16MB sample memory expandable up to 272MB using optional DIMMS, and SmartMedia" storage for sample data
Hundreds of new high-quality patterns, sounds and rhythm sets; expandable via SRX-Series wave expansion board
Studio-quality effects including 24-bit reverb, 2 multi-effects processors, compression/EQ and mastering effects
Built-in USB port for sample/Standard MIDI File transfer and User data backup
S/PDIF digital I/O, six analog outputs and stereo analog inputs
Dual D Beams, Turntable Emulation and velocity-sensitive padsplus front-panel knobs, buttons and sliders to modify sounds and patterns
New V-LINK function for integrating audio and video in performance |
http://www.roland.com/products/en/MC-909/
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They're rather expensive and it's still a question how I'm getting the money, hehe, but I'll figure that prolly.
Any way, you advice me to step in to something this big, or start with some simple other drum computer? I want your advice!
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by peet: 18-01-2005 21:36.
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18-01-2005 21:27 |
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Surya 
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I ses NO reason at all to get a GrooveBox. It's a nice toy to play with, but it's not intresting if you're serious about producing.
If I were you I would rather go for a midi controller with a lot of knobs and stuff, to controll the softsynths and effects...
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18-01-2005 21:49 |
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Halph-Price
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check e-bay for a Roland MC 303 Drum Machine, got sick drum noises that work nice in dnb.
but no there cool to program with cuz you can use them away from your computer.
ah, finishs the thought later.
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18-01-2005 22:53 |
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spudleyq
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I've actually used an MC 303 before......and they're not good at all.......they're like kid's toys.......not something to buy if you want to take producing seriously.
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19-01-2005 15:25 |
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djfreemc
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Think u should also check out the akai MPC series, they are samplers with a built-in sequencer.
the mpc4000
http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpc4k/index.html
Or if u want to spend a bit less cash, the new mpc1000 looks nice too
http://www.akaipro.com/int/mpc1k/index.html
Or the Korg Electribes, some even have tube amps in the output stage for extra warm sound.
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/dance_dj/dj_overview.asp
But to be honest I don't think it will help u much in programming breaks. I find a computer sequencer program easier to work with because u can get an overview of your entire drum sequence, or even your entire track at a glance. That's just not possible on hardware like this.
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19-01-2005 19:38 |
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marine289
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Originally posted by Surya
If I were you I would rather go for a midi controller with a lot of knobs and stuff, to controll the softsynths and effects... |
Im thinking about buying something like that, but I have no idea what I should get...
But my cousin told me that there are some that are pretty cheap (starting from about 100 euros...).
Could you tell me a little more about it please??
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23-01-2005 20:31 |
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Surya
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Well, I bought one from M-Audio, but it's more of a keyboard with 8 sliders and 8 knobs
They have models with only sliders and knobs too, and those might be cheaper, dunno
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